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Here comes the Pererabond...
Angelica _ann
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:49:11 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:

The Republic of Kenya will be represented by:
Henry Rotich - Cabinet Secretary of the National Treasury
Dr. Kamau Thugge - Permanent Secretary of the National Treasury
Dr. Geoffrey Mwau - Economic Secretary of the National Treasury
Felister Kivisi - Senior Assistant Director, Debt Management Office of the National Treasury
Gerald Arita – Director Financial Markets, Central Bank of Kenya

Will there come a point in the future when the office of the Attorney General claim that since it was not in the entourage, it shall not be held responsible for any legal penalties?

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KulaRaha
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:49:56 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Maturity will be important. If its 10yr, then 8-9% and higher as you go longer...


Rumour is tenor will be 30 years...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:35:52 PM
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Let the Perera $€£¥s come. Who doesnt want to see the NSE trade at PEs of 50 like was the case in 2006?
Centum will fly past 100,member will be at 200,simba at 250 while mpesa will flirt with the 30ssmile
I say we need this Perera like yesterday!
@SufficientlyP
Mainat
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 6:28:10 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Mainat wrote:
Maturity will be important. If its 10yr, then 8-9% and higher as you go longer...


Rumour is tenor will be 30 years...


I highly doubt. 30yr would be north of 12%
Sehemu ndio nyumba
KulaRaha
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:59:17 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Let the Perera $€£¥s come. Who doesnt want to see the NSE trade at PEs of 50 like was the case in 2006?
Centum will fly past 100,member will be at 200,simba at 250 while mpesa will flirt with the 30ssmile
I say we need this Perera like yesterday!


Pray tell, how will all that happen by borrowing more?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
jerry
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 9:33:09 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Let the Perera $€£¥s come. Who doesnt want to see the NSE trade at PEs of 50 like was the case in 2006?
Centum will fly past 100,member will be at 200,simba at 250 while mpesa will flirt with the 30ssmile
I say we need this Perera like yesterday!


Pray tell, how will all that happen by borrowing more?

Probably @Philang... is imagining effect of borrowing huge sums of cash is akin printing money!
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muganda
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:02:43 AM
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Aly-khan Satchu calls it at between 7.0-7.5%

KulaRaha
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:10:19 AM
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7% would be a bonus for GoK, and the paper might be undersubscribed.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:32:42 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Let the Perera $€£¥s come. Who doesnt want to see the NSE trade at PEs of 50 like was the case in 2006?
Centum will fly past 100,member will be at 200,simba at 250 while mpesa will flirt with the 30ssmile
I say we need this Perera like yesterday!


Pray tell, how will all that happen by borrowing more?


Very simple Bw.Kularaha.This APB 1/2014/30Yr bondsmile at say 7.5%(Wow) will distort the yield curve thus pushing the yields down. When you have low interest rates,@Jerry can rush to the bank and take out a loan hence more liquidity in the market. Low interest rates ideally should lead to high Equity prices as Fixed income securities become unattractive as an investment.
This Perera bond would also in the short run lead to a strong KES which wouldnt be an incentive for MPC to alter the interest rate upwards.
Well the story might be very different in the long run if the money is not put to good use i.e development projects. If it goes to recurrent expenditure(highly likely from this clueless duoSad we might be back to where we were in 2011,actually even worse! Inflation will be up there, and so will the interest rates. Pray the opposite happens.
But for now, lets receive the money with open arms. It will bea good time to sell your Equities and your tuplots at sky high prices and then wait for the.........then you move to Fixed Income!
@SufficientlyP
KulaRaha
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:00:18 AM
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They say they will issue USD1.5B. 600-750M will got to repaying the bank. Balance will be held as reserves by CBK, somewhere offshore in a nostro account.

How will the cost of credit go down? I suspect prices will rise as manufacturers/importers borrowing in USD at 5.5 to 7% will be re-priced by banks as min return will now be 7.5-8% (bond yield).
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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