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Atheism by Harrison Mumia
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#11 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 11:43:17 AM
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This is no rocket science.

Most people begin noticing the inconsistencies in Secondary school.

If one summons their logical side!
Dunia ni msongamano..
AlphDoti
#12 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 11:55:09 AM
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wilyum wrote:
Swenani wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
???

May God rescue his soul.

Can you believe in God without going through any religion.

Sometimes I get confused by these religions

I always believe in doing good and believing in God but I do not trust these religions.

We need to separate God from religion

@swenani for you to get clear perspective about this, you need a logically proof about the hearafter or life after death.

...I can tell you this: life after death is not just a blind belief, it is a logical belief.

@Alphadoti, I do not dispute the existence of God, am not just comfortable with the current religions even though I sometimes go to church; I feel they are fraudsters

Tuko wengi hapa, i believe there is God but Religion is the biggest lie ever told!.

...this is the truth and way of life?

@swenani, @wilyum, @mkwasi since there is no doubt that this universe was designed, by a creator, by a designer, this creator is called God, this God has a name in Arabic called Allah.

Since you believe there is a creator, the only thing now is which of the many religions is truth.

Since you people intelligent, all you have to look now is what makes sense. If some teachings are not scientifically correct, that immediately is a red flag. The illogical teachings are from the fraudsters.
muganda
#13 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:08:40 PM
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@Swenani, quite understandable. In my view more insight than the cynicism in aethism.

irreligion broadly,
an indifference towards religion


Swenani
#14 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:36:24 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
wilyum wrote:
Swenani wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
???

May God rescue his soul.

Can you believe in God without going through any religion.

Sometimes I get confused by these religions

I always believe in doing good and believing in God but I do not trust these religions.

We need to separate God from religion

@swenani for you to get clear perspective about this, you need a logically proof about the hearafter or life after death.

...I can tell you this: life after death is not just a blind belief, it is a logical belief.

@Alphadoti, I do not dispute the existence of God, am not just comfortable with the current religions even though I sometimes go to church; I feel they are fraudsters

Tuko wengi hapa, i believe there is God but Religion is the biggest lie ever told!.

...this is the truth and way of life?

@swenani, @wilyum, @mkwasi since there is no doubt that this universe was designed, by a creator, by a designer, this creator is called God, this God has a name in Arabic called Allah.

Since you believe there is a creator, the only thing now is which of the many religions is truth.

Since you people intelligent, all you have to look now is what makes sense. If some teachings are not scientifically correct, that immediately is a red flag. The illogical teachings are from the fraudsters.


@Alphadoti, Do you know that science in itself is a religion?

Science is evidence based while religion is faith based.

Bottom line is that Have faith in power that is greater than you (God/Allah) and believe in things that make sense and doesn't oppress others.

On a different note, I was having a conversation with an atheist friend of mine who dismissed my faith in God by saying that "Faith is the fear of the unknown"
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Mist
#15 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:38:30 PM
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Katt Williams On Athiests
smile
Simplicity is the utmost sophistication.
Mtu Biz
#16 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:44:31 PM
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Atheism can only be embraced by faith, not science.
Sola Scriptura


Swenani
#17 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:51:44 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:

Atheism can only be embraced by faith, not science.


I think so too.But the atheist(one) i know claims that atheist is based on knowledge/evidence/science and not faith.

Where is hamburglar?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
AlphDoti
#18 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 1:00:44 PM
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Swenani wrote:
@Alphadoti, Do you know that science in itself is a religion?

Science is evidence based while religion is faith based.

Bottom line is that Have faith in power that is greater than you (God/Allah) and believe in things that make sense and doesn't oppress others.

@swenani it's you yourself who mentioned that there are fraudulent people. How can you again comfortably settle on faith alone? If the same faith is not scientific, how can you say this bottomline? You need to make sure that faith is logical. Otherwise, if it is illogical, then it is fraudulent.

True faith cannot be unscientific and it cannot be illogical.
AlphDoti
#19 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 1:06:39 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:

Atheism can only be embraced by faith, not science.

@mtu biz you cannot convince an atheist that he should only have faith. This is someone who has been thinking. This is someone who has been using his brain. He has seen illogical information, inaccurate stuff. He is not emotional. An atheist has refused to belief that a creator can walk on the earth and you can hear his footsteps, and this creator cannot be able to see his creation hiding in a bush. He refuses to belief that Creator can have a wife, can have sex, and bear (beget) a child!
Swenani
#20 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 1:13:14 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
@Alphadoti, Do you know that science in itself is a religion?

Science is evidence based while religion is faith based.

Bottom line is that Have faith in power that is greater than you (God/Allah) and believe in things that make sense and doesn't oppress others.

@swenani it's you yourself who mentioned that there are fraudulent people. How can you again comfortably settle on faith alone? If the same faith is not scientific, how can you say this bottomline? You need to make sure that faith is logical. Otherwise, if it is illogical, then it is fraudulent.

True faith cannot be unscientific and it cannot be illogical.


@Alphadoti, Fraudsters dont rely on science but Faith

True faith in God is based on reasoning and not science or logical.

@Alphadoti Do you believe in the science evolution(big bang theory) or the creation of universe?(Please use faith,science and logical to justify you answer)

Now if you were to reason do you still believe in your theory?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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