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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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dunkang wrote:muganda wrote:The difference between Total and KenolKobil results is interest expense.
Finance costs Total 278m KenolKobil 1.671bn
Borrowings Total 2.494bn Kenol Kobil 14.854bn
So what I'd like to know is, who are KenolKobil's bankers?
DividendsTotal (K) 0.6/- KenolKobil 0.1/- Profit Before TaxationTotal (K) 2.1B/- KenolKobil 0.56B/- And someone was cursing the KES 5.2B interest-free preferential shares "LOAN"???? Now you know!!!!! TOTAL preferential shares are yet to be paid back, so dont celebrate too early and they are worth 9.0b. 5.2b was the second tranche. Total's results are better and more promising than those of KK, a tip. whenever you calculate TOTAL's EPS, NAV, P?B. please do not forget the preference shares! Until such a time that they'll be paid out. Its a major dilution that's easy to ignore. TOTAL's route will cost them less in the long term and the dilution is directly on the share price. KK's method will hurt the bottom line, but impinge less on the share itself, the market will take care of that. Like its already doing today. What i dont like about the pref shares is that total's future earnings and esp balance sheet are dependent on the whims of the pref shareholders, they can spoil the party AT ANY TIME by demanding payment. While for KK, its more predicatable pain of interest payment. I dont like both methods. But i have to admit TOTAL is more fairly valued at current prices and with less encumbrance to grow going forward The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/6/2013 Posts: 95
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was yesterdays supply a bluff or what? some guys are plotting something. This counter has no reasons of tanking Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Kk will unlock its potential 2014.i expect over 200% profit growth so continue selling to me iam patient for atleast a year from now. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Some pple are in the nse expecting miracles,what did u expect from kk?just sell and give us room to sit properly "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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mlennyma wrote:Some pple are in the nse expecting miracles,what did u expect from kk?just sell and give us room to sit properly I hope it goes back to the 9.10 levels I repeat the cycle again. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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7.3 million shares traded as at 2.35pm. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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I can see guys bidding in millions at 9.70 but this volume is a big plus and sign of confidence in kk. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Who is buying,who is selling ? Large volumes on both sides. But sellers outweigh the buyers “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Damn it! “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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clean 8 + % Big buys at 9.70 only have > 10 as huge volume supply points NOW “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers I've come to realise that these are major shareholders restructuring their portfolio or exiting with the help of their buddies or investment banks. Because you cant randomly supply 10 million shares and expect someone will buy them, it could take months. Probably they bet with each other how the results would turn out and the help each other restructure/exit for one and entry for the other. It could also be a major-ish shareholder reducing stake or offloading completely and "KK" aka Plunge protection offering to buy those shares to reduce the blood on the streets. conspiracy theories much? The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 Saw that as well. The guy is already in the moneys @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 Is the PPT controlling the live data feed at rich.co.ke? I am in data/info darkness. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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@Aguytrying Kenol Kobil main banker is Kenya Commercial Bank (KCB) Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 Is the PPT controlling the live data feed at rich.co.ke? I am in data/info darkness. Ata wakizima taa! also in the dark The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 Is the PPT controlling the live data feed at rich.co.ke? I am in data/info darkness. Use http://live.mystocks.co.ke/rmw.php
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:dunkang wrote:Metasploit wrote:Who is buying,who is selling ?
Large volumes on both sides.
But sellers outweigh the buyers Plunge Protection CLUB The PPT were sleeping?? good volumes trades at 9.00 Supply side weaknesses 50,000 and 25,000 Is the PPT controlling the live data feed at rich.co.ke? I am in data/info darkness. Use http://live.mystocks.co.ke/rmw.php 9.xy, 10.xy, till takeover/acquisition, 8.xy and 11.xy also . N’way, FY14 will be great (resultswise), and better if the awaited buyer comes knocking
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