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5.5 Million shillings investment
Pesa Nane
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2015 9:28:15 PM
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
get 2m and buy an acre on second row of beach front in south coast, diani. Use the 3.5m to construct hotel and 10 rooms using local material eg thatch roof, coral stone walls etc.

This will bring you 10 roomx x kes 4k per might=40k per day =14.6m per year. Assume 50% occupancy, say 7m per year.
Yoour return on investment is 6 months with a guaranteed 7m per year.

I was there last week and checked out a few hotels . Most wer 100% fully booked and charged over 4k per night .



Brother, which south coast are we talking about of 2 million for an acre? Kindly hook me up


posted Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:05:21 PM
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
S.Mutaga III
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:11:29 AM
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I would use 5 million to buy a 33 seater, pimp it seriously and learn from a veteran in the business how to maximize returns (even if it costs me). You would then rake in at least 10k per day...which translates to 250k on a bad month net profit. Save 500k for unexpected expenses. I would also invest a great deal of time in the business for the first few months, learn all loopholes and seal them before making it less active.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
kayhara
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 7:50:45 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
get 2m and buy an acre on second row of beach front in south coast, diani. Use the 3.5m to construct hotel and 10 rooms using local material eg thatch roof, coral stone walls etc.

This will bring you 10 roomx x kes 4k per might=40k per day =14.6m per year. Assume 50% occupancy, say 7m per year.
Yoour return on investment is 6 months with a guaranteed 7m per year.

I was there last week and checked out a few hotels . Most wer 100% fully booked and charged over 4k per night .



Brother, which south coast are we talking about of 2 million for an acre? Kindly hook me up


posted Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:05:21 PM

Lol third row inachezea 60M that is if you get one, but further down past WASINI (SHIMONI) you might get.
To Each His Own
mulla
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 8:08:35 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
I would use 5 million to buy a 33 seater, pimp it seriously and learn from a veteran in the business how to maximize returns (even if it costs me). You would then rake in at least 10k per day...which translates to 250k on a bad month net profit. Save 500k for unexpected expenses. I would also invest a great deal of time in the business for the first few months, learn all loopholes and seal them before making it less active.


You mean turnover for 25 days of operations.....anyway what are the margins in matatu business? I don't think its a business I would like to get into....too chaotic!!
FRM2011
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:12:44 AM
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Am loving this thread because it's offering an opportunity to put into test investment theories and ideas from wazuans.

It's amazing only @Wendz's idea would have given the best return.
S.Mutaga III
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:56:09 AM
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mulla wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
I would use 5 million to buy a 33 seater, pimp it seriously and learn from a veteran in the business how to maximize returns (even if it costs me). You would then rake in at least 10k per day...which translates to 250k on a bad month net profit. Save 500k for unexpected expenses. I would also invest a great deal of time in the business for the first few months, learn all loopholes and seal them before making it less active.


You mean turnover for 25 days of operations.....anyway what are the margins in matatu business? I don't think its a business I would like to get into....too chaotic!!

Thank you for the correction. Even with the worst net profit of Ksh 200k per month...it is still a worthy investment bearing in mind that buses do not depreciate as fast as vans...give it a life span of seven years before you can dispose it...do your math. I also believe a net profit of 250k is possible once you become experienced in the business and seal most loopholes. About the chaos, no shilling comes easy...even 'passive' investments like real estate. Ask a landlord and they will tell you how active real estate can get. With a comprehensive insurance cover, close monitoring and frequent servicing, I believe you can make a fortune. Whats more, you get the cash on a daily basis so it is excellent for cash flow. This is important when you need cash for other projects that are time sensitive.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
MaichBlack
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 3:11:01 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
I would use 5 million to buy a 33 seater, pimp it seriously and learn from a veteran in the business how to maximize returns (even if it costs me). You would then rake in at least 10k per day...which translates to 250k on a bad month net profit. Save 500k for unexpected expenses. I would also invest a great deal of time in the business for the first few months, learn all loopholes and seal them before making it less active.

And don't forget to save another 500 for medical expenses. Stress will be your very close friend - from rogue crew to corrupt cops to Mungiki to a government that treats the matatu business like an illegal business to kanjo to etc.

And I suspect things might be tough for matatu operators. I see those buses queueing for passengers even during rush hour! A line of 20, 30 buses waiting for passengers! The fare they charge during off peak hours doesn't make economic sense! Mbao mbao town after queueing for hours???
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Nimerudi
#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 6:08:19 PM
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Last month I had a lengthy discussion with a focus group (matatu touts) on operating a bus.

What I learnt was don't bother with matatus if they're your only investment, especially when you've never done it before.

Point being you'll get burnt before you find your way around. Everyone is out to screw you in that business; be it the cops, the fleet manager or the touts themselves. Also factor-in stress as one of the costs of being in that business. But if you have the grit, do it and report your findings here.

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