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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:bkismat wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_dRFSVOaCU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DG_dRFSVOaCU&has_verified=1
Before traveling there for 'greener pastures' think twice. @bkismat we've seen this before. Hogwash! Stagemanaged, acted. And the camera was there taking video of the event? And the guy being beaten had sollen face even before the beating started! and he didn't not even look into the camera following him everywhere around the house! He didn't even want to call for help from the camera man? NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. Knee jerk reaction, - anything from Arab world defend (however wicked), while as much as possible trying to somehow draw in some Western connection to whip up emotions from brethren! Surely that’s a new low! It isn’t in doubt that Arabs have little or no regard for black Man! It matters precious little that the black guys may be an importer of their faith! I have met some local Muslim men who at one point worked in Middle East, most as drivers. One common denominator in their experiences is the tales of the local Arabs contempt towards black people. I'm no friend to the West. I don't think they represend the best role model. But I'm friend to my own country, Kenya. You see, they never cease to insult and slander that country in order to find justification for waging war on it, even if it means creating videos about that country they want to malign. It is always being subjected to criticism and distortions. The traces of which will endure in the Western mind, and lately, in the African mind. Fortunately, there does exist a more cultivated public whose ideas about this country are less deformed. The public still regard it highly. They still know that this country is great in many ways. Its people are wonderful. Of course, it may happen sometimes. Just like it happens in other areas of the world, even in Kenya. Why do people go there if they are not wanted? No on is forcing them to go work there. Whether they are drivers or house service. However, one symptom of the ignorance is the fact that imagination of the Western and also those from Africa. This results in a misconception that the Arabs hate Africans! Or Arabs mistreat their workers. Many people are amazed to find that majority of the people in these countries are wonderful. People should just know that just as there are bad people in other parts of the world, so are in Saudia too. I did a search and found that there are worse countries in human rights abuse: "in calendar year 2011: Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Two disputed territories, Tibet and Western Sahara, were also in this category"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Njung'e wrote:[quote=AlphDoti][quote=bkismat]
NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. You are very poor at spinning!.....Can i stage manage that kind of beating on you please?Just to confirm!  Arabs are savages! http://ethiopianewsforum...m/viewtopic.php?t=47281[/quote] Good one. He, @Doti fellow should volunteer for a stage managed similar video!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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radio wrote:Njung'e wrote:[quote=AlphDoti][quote=bkismat]
NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. You are very poor at spinning!.....Can i stage manage that kind of beating on you please?Just to confirm! Arabs are savages! http://ethiopianewsforum...m/viewtopic.php?t=47281[/quote] Good one. He, @Doti fellow should volunteer for a stage managed similar video! Copy that!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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McReggae wrote:radio wrote:Njung'e wrote:AlphDoti wrote:[quote=bkismat]
NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. You are very poor at spinning!.....Can i stage manage that kind of beating on you please?Just to confirm! Arabs are savages! http://ethiopianewsforum...m/viewtopic.php?t=47281
Good one. He, @Doti fellow should volunteer for a stage managed similar video! Copy that!!! @guka not me. You know who are those famous in mocking everything. They don't spare anyone, even the dead. I do not have to argue about. First, I will say that lying is forbidden. Secondly, jests are forbidden. Act of frightening one another whether in seriousness or as a joke, whether in words or in actions is forbidden Examples of prohibition of lying:1. God says in Quran sura al-Nahl chapter 16:105: " It is only those who believe not in the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of God, who fabricate falsehood, and it is they who are liars 2. Hadith as narrated by Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: " The signs of the hypocrite are three:
- when he speaks, he lies;
- when he makes a promise, he breaks it;
- and when he is entrusted with something, he betrays that trust."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:bkismat wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_dRFSVOaCU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DG_dRFSVOaCU&has_verified=1
Before traveling there for 'greener pastures' think twice. @bkismat we've seen this before. Hogwash! Stagemanaged, acted. And the camera was there taking video of the event? And the guy being beaten had sollen face even before the beating started! and he didn't not even look into the camera following him everywhere around the house! He didn't even want to call for help from the camera man? NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. Knee jerk reaction, - anything from Arab world defend (however wicked), while as much as possible trying to somehow draw in some Western connection to whip up emotions from brethren! Surely that’s a new low! It isn’t in doubt that Arabs have little or no regard for black Man! It matters precious little that the black guys may be an importer of their faith! I have met some local Muslim men who at one point worked in Middle East, most as drivers. One common denominator in their experiences is the tales of the local Arabs contempt towards black people. I'm no friend to the West. I don't think they represend the best role model. But I'm friend to my own country, Kenya. You see, they never cease to insult and slander that country in order to find justification for waging war on it, even if it means creating videos about that country they want to malign. It is always being subjected to criticism and distortions. The traces of which will endure in the Western mind, and lately, in the African mind. Fortunately, there does exist a more cultivated public whose ideas about this country are less deformed. The public still regard it highly. They still know that this country is great in many ways. Its people are wonderful. Of course, it may happen sometimes. Just like it happens in other areas of the world, even in Kenya. Why do people go there if they are not wanted? No on is forcing them to go work there. Whether they are drivers or house service. However, one symptom of the ignorance is the fact that imagination of the Western and also those from Africa. This results in a misconception that the Arabs hate Africans! Or Arabs mistreat their workers. Many people are amazed to find that majority of the people in these countries are wonderful. People should just know that just as there are bad people in other parts of the world, so are in Saudia too. I did a search and found that there are worse countries in human rights abuse: "in calendar year 2011: Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Two disputed territories, Tibet and Western Sahara, were also in this category" true to form never disappointing! Skirting around issues while completely avoiding addressing them. I always thought Saudi Arabia is a trusted ally of USA/ the entire west. Now they are looking for reasons to attack them! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:bkismat wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_dRFSVOaCU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DG_dRFSVOaCU&has_verified=1
Before traveling there for 'greener pastures' think twice. @bkismat we've seen this before. Hogwash! Stagemanaged, acted. And the camera was there taking video of the event? And the guy being beaten had sollen face even before the beating started! and he didn't not even look into the camera following him everywhere around the house! He didn't even want to call for help from the camera man? NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. Knee jerk reaction, - anything from Arab world defend (however wicked), while as much as possible trying to somehow draw in some Western connection to whip up emotions from brethren! Surely that’s a new low! It isn’t in doubt that Arabs have little or no regard for black Man! It matters precious little that the black guys may be an importer of their faith! I have met some local Muslim men who at one point worked in Middle East, most as drivers. One common denominator in their experiences is the tales of the local Arabs contempt towards black people. I'm no friend to the West. I don't think they represend the best role model. But I'm friend to my own country, Kenya. You see, they never cease to insult and slander that country in order to find justification for waging war on it, even if it means creating videos about that country they want to malign. It is always being subjected to criticism and distortions. The traces of which will endure in the Western mind, and lately, in the African mind. Fortunately, there does exist a more cultivated public whose ideas about this country are less deformed. The public still regard it highly. They still know that this country is great in many ways. Its people are wonderful. Of course, it may happen sometimes. Just like it happens in other areas of the world, even in Kenya. Why do people go there if they are not wanted? No on is forcing them to go work there. Whether they are drivers or house service. However, one symptom of the ignorance is the fact that imagination of the Western and also those from Africa. This results in a misconception that the Arabs hate Africans! Or Arabs mistreat their workers. Many people are amazed to find that majority of the people in these countries are wonderful. People should just know that just as there are bad people in other parts of the world, so are in Saudia too. I did a search and found that there are worse countries in human rights abuse: "in calendar year 2011: Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Two disputed territories, Tibet and Western Sahara, were also in this category" true to form never disappointing! Skirting around issues while completely avoiding addressing them. I always thought Saudi Arabia is a trusted ally of USA/ the entire west. Now they are looking for reasons to attack them! @Nandwa, I meant to say " a country".
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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radio wrote:Njung'e wrote:[quote=AlphDoti][quote=bkismat]
NOTE: Of course it is possible some workers may be oppressed. But this one? It doesn't convince me. Look at the smartly trim beard of the beater. You are very poor at spinning!.....Can i stage manage that kind of beating on you please?Just to confirm! Arabs are savages! http://ethiopianewsforum...m/viewtopic.php?t=47281[/quote] Good one. He, @Doti fellow should volunteer for a stage managed similar video! And can I be given the honour of doing the lashing? Me thinks he needs some for defending this kind of barbarism. Alph, - toa goggles bwana. This is not something you can defend.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Saudi Arabia and most other Countries in the middle East interpret their faith to forbid women from 1. Driving, 2. Going out alone 3. Participating in sports 4. Attending soccer matches as spectators 5. Etc A fortnight ago, we were told right here that forbidding women from driving was a MISINTEPRETATION of the faith! Very confusing over who to trust on interpretation as the faith is domiciled there and only spread here much later. I am sure they would puke on the idea of latter day converts trying to teach them what they consider theirs! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:
Saudi Arabia and most other Countries in the middle East interpret their faith to forbid women from
1. Driving,
2. Going out alone
3. Participating in sports
4. Attending soccer matches as spectators
5. Etc
A fortnight ago, we were told right here that forbidding women from driving was a MISINTEPRETATION of the faith!
Very confusing over who to trust on interpretation as the faith is domiciled there and only spread here much later.
I am sure they would puke on the idea of latter day converts trying to teach them what they consider theirs!
@Nandwa who told you that forbiding women to drive in Saudia is misrepresentation of faith? Please quote. I'm waiting...  
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/14/2012 Posts: 577 Location: Nairobi Kenya
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Just this morning I read somewhere that Ethiopia is repatriating all its illegal migrant workers in Saudi Arabia due to mistreatment. Mistreatment/torture/urban day slavery is a reality in the middle east!!!!! Dont even try to argue otherwise.What I won't do however, is try to link it with Islam, that would be a generalization and not factual. Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
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