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Kenya Re grows EPS by a miserly 3.6% in H1 2013
mwekez@ji
#21 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:10:54 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Good results if you factor everything in... I'm staying put with shares I bought at 10bob!


Good set of results ... Am also staying put!!!
mwekez@ji
#22 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:44:39 AM
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• Net premiums up 19.3%
• Net claims up 1.1%
• Investment income up 24.9%
• Operating expenses up 9.6%
• Profit before tax up 12.8%
• Profit after tax up 3.4%
• Total assets up 22.5%
• Shareholder funds up 21.7%

#Mwenye.Macho.Haambiwi.Tazama
Ericsson
#23 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:01:55 AM
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A bonus share issue is in the offing when they will be announcing end of year results
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mwekez@ji
#24 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:40:58 PM
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Rich Today wrote:
On a Trailing PE of 4.088, this is a very cheap share

mwekez@ji
#25 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:45:00 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
• Net premiums up 19.3%
• Net claims up 1.1%
• Investment income up 24.9%
• Operating expenses up 9.6%
• Profit before tax up 12.8%
• Profit after tax up 3.4%
• Total assets up 22.5%
• Shareholder funds up 21.7%

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Company Commentary

''Growth was achieved on the back of an expansion in insurance Premiums in Kenya and the rest of the Africa.''
VituVingiSana
#26 Posted : Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:38:27 AM
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2H 2013 costs include JKIA but there is much more than just the fire. There are costs of loss of business, etc which will add up fast as the claims come through.

APA [per a newspaper report] is the primary insurer but KenRe would be affected as the primary reinsurer in Kenya. If the other businesses e.g. newsagents, banks,airtel, safaricom, etc claim damages for lost business [often higher than the physical loss] then the bill will grow fast.

Safaricom had a very busy stall at JKIA. That's all it was. A stall. But the sales they made of kabambe phones, dongles & airtime must make it a high revenue location. The same with Airtel. These are not folks who buy 100/- scratchcards. These are customers who buy high-value cards, etc.

The duty-free shops, etc are also high volume & high value businesses. Don't forget Java.

A sensible business would have insurance which includes 'loss of business' & the penultimate insurer is KenyaRe.

It will take time for the losses to be quantified, assessed & negotiated. This means the payouts will stretch into 2014 or even 2015. Others like Jubilee may be affected if APA had syndicated the cover OR used reinsurers in which Jubilee has an ownership stake.

Let the payouts begin!
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mwekez@ji
#27 Posted : Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:09:03 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
2H 2013 costs include JKIA but there is much more than just the fire. There are costs of loss of business, etc which will add up fast as the claims come through.

APA [per a newspaper report] is the primary insurer but KenRe would be affected as the primary reinsurer in Kenya. If the other businesses e.g. newsagents, banks,airtel, safaricom, etc claim damages for lost business [often higher than the physical loss] then the bill will grow fast.

Safaricom had a very busy stall at JKIA. That's all it was. A stall. But the sales they made of kabambe phones, dongles & airtime must make it a high revenue location. The same with Airtel. These are not folks who buy 100/- scratchcards. These are customers who buy high-value cards, etc.

The duty-free shops, etc are also high volume & high value businesses. Don't forget Java.

A sensible business would have insurance which includes 'loss of business' & the penultimate insurer is KenyaRe.

It will take time for the losses to be quantified, assessed & negotiated. This means the payouts will stretch into 2014 or even 2015. Others like Jubilee may be affected if APA had syndicated the cover OR used reinsurers in which Jubilee has an ownership stake.

Let the payouts begin!


Q1. What portion of UAP business is reinsured?
A1. Less than a quarter.

Q2. What is the insured amount in the JKIA Fire?
A2. ???? (KenyaRe will be liable for less than a quarter of that)
Cde Monomotapa
#28 Posted : Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:14:04 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
• Net premiums up 19.3%
• Net claims up 1.1%
• Investment income up 24.9%
• Operating expenses up 9.6%
• Profit before tax up 12.8%
• Profit after tax up 3.4%
• Total assets up 22.5%
• Shareholder funds up 21.7%

#Mwenye.Macho.Haambiwi.Tazama

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guru267
#29 Posted : Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:20:23 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
2H 2013 costs include JKIA but there is much more than just the fire. There are costs of loss of business, etc which will add up fast as the claims come through.

APA [per a newspaper report] is the primary insurer but KenRe would be affected as the primary reinsurer in Kenya. If the other businesses e.g. newsagents, banks,airtel, safaricom, etc claim damages for lost business [often higher than the physical loss] then the bill will grow fast.

Safaricom had a very busy stall at JKIA. That's all it was. A stall. But the sales they made of kabambe phones, dongles & airtime must make it a high revenue location. The same with Airtel. These are not folks who buy 100/- scratchcards. These are customers who buy high-value cards, etc.

The duty-free shops, etc are also high volume & high value businesses. Don't forget Java.

A sensible business would have insurance which includes 'loss of business' & the penultimate insurer is KenyaRe.

It will take time for the losses to be quantified, assessed & negotiated. This means the payouts will stretch into 2014 or even 2015. Others like Jubilee may be affected if APA had syndicated the cover OR used reinsurers in which Jubilee has an ownership stake.

Let the payouts begin!


Q1. What portion of UAP business is reinsured?
A1. Less than a quarter.

Q2. What is the insured amount in the JKIA Fire?
A2. ???? (KenyaRe will be liable for less than a quarter of that)


@Mwekez@ji you are right... If losses are 1billion, Kenya re is likely to pay out less than 200million in claims!

What I know is that Kenya re is a solid enterprise... I remember they paid about 500million in 2010 as part of Post Election Violence claims and they still delivered a sweet profit that year...

JKIA will be managed accordingly... smile

I also expect Jubilee to weather this claim like they have done in the past by writing back some of those fictitious losses they created in 2010 when they did very well (EPS grew 84% even after subtracting ghost losses)

By the way aren't Jubilee the best claims manager in East Africa??


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Deuteronomy 4:16
heri
#30 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 10:40:40 AM
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is this stock ever going to move up?

wondering if i should sell and buy something else like safaricom
Ericsson
#31 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 11:48:33 AM
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A company very rich in investments but the share price is not behaving correspondingly.
Did a research and also found it's on the top ten list in East African Portland shareholders list with approximately 559000 shares.
portland has more than doubled this year
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
heri
#32 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 12:03:15 PM
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Great

does that mean one day it might just explode or are ther hidden things keeping the share price down
Mastermind
#33 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 12:32:39 PM
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heri wrote:
Great

does that mean one day it might just explode or are ther hidden things keeping the share price down


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If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
symbols
#34 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:21:06 PM
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Interesting counter.Moving 2m shares while total demand and supply remain unchanged.The sellers are jittery today.Any news?
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