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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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CLK wrote:poundfoolish wrote:seppuku wrote:@Ante_Christa/@thuks, so you are saying that the slow guys should stick to the left-most lane and leave the other lanes for faster traffic? No? Ulipata aje DL wewe? Was going to ask the same thing, this explains why so many people have no idea why they have been shown the middle finger on the road. And those when you flash your lights they decide to put on hazards, ignorance!!! Boss, THIIIIIIIIINK! I believe I have raised my points cogently throughout this conversation. I know what the textbook says. Don't just rant, argue out your points. And don't just follow the law brainlessly, think about the motivation behind it. Wewe niaje? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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McReggae wrote:I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? Precisely my question. Thank you. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why! Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking. Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side. Hope that clears things up. The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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McReggae wrote:I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? You said it, it's the maximum not minimum, meaning there obviously will be traffic moving at less than this speed, for instance trucks, bikes, etc. On what lane should such traffic be? Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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seppuku wrote:McReggae wrote:I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? Precisely my question. Thank you. Ideally the different lanes should have different speed limits[minimum]. The outer most lane is for utility vehicles and buses,the second outer most for heavy trucks,the next for slow moving and lastly,the inner most for the fastest. Not unless you drive with your eyes on the speedometer, you wouldn't know when you drop to 95kmh,so unless overtaking,leave the inner most lane alone. I see guys driving at 80kmh and hogging the inner most lane,it should be made illegal.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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thuks wrote:Just imagine three trailers moving at 50km max hogging the three lanes. Is this even a question? No wonder I see some people driving on the right, with a trailer on the left moving slowly, and this guy on the smaller is just not overtaking the trailer causeing lot's of obstruction behind him and he feels nothing. Please guys maintain left when you're not overtaking. It'll minimise faster drivers from swaying from left to right, manouvering.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/14/2011 Posts: 171
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CLK wrote:JkMwatha wrote:seppuku wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:It's coz of the speeds involved. If you are on the inner lane and you are driving slowly, of course you'll make faster drivers keep maneuvering the lanes. The outer lane is for slow cars and those exiting, while the inner lane is for higher speeds. Again, the left side is your blind side, it's easier to see cars from your right side mirror. Which IS a problem. If I am cruising at 110kph, why not just stick to the innermost (right-most) lane instead of weaving in and out of the left one? That feels like the less dangerous and more efficient strategy. What if I am behind you cruising at 120kph? You will be over-speeding. You kill bird...bird dead snake come.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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jguru wrote:nakujua wrote:jguru wrote:1. Keep distance. You should drive "3 seconds" behind a car while driving at all speeds.
2. Carry a first aid box, a fire extinguisher, 2 safety triangles, spare, jack and wheel spanner in your car at all times. Plus an empty jerrican (ya kubebea mafuta ikiisha). Accidents and emergencies can happen at any time.
3. Learn how to dim lights at night especially when approaching other cars or pedestrians. Some of us see poorly at night, so when you shine lights onto our eyes, even with our walking sticks, we'll stagger into a ditch.
4. Keep left unless overtaking. Don't overtake on the left. I think this is the most abused rule on our roads. Does the Highway Code still exist? Do people know that a rule called Lane Discipline exists? wait until you come across the guys who love taking their sweet time on the inner lanes, you will wait forever for a chance to overtake I see KeNHA has put big road signs all along Thika Highway saying "Keep Left Unless Overtaking". But who is following this rule anyway? Kenyan drivers cannot read road signs! Or completely ignore them! At KCA University there was a trailer doing 20kph on the rightmost lane.  I taught this lesson above to the first-timers. It's called LANE DISCIPLINE! It's one way of making sure everyone arrives at their destination safely; both the slow and the fast drivers. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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mukiha wrote:Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why!
Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking.
Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side.
Hope that clears things up.
The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Wewe mtu ya hesabu, which numbers are these you are quoting? Anyway, very well said. But my question is why? Why fanatically cling onto the left-most lane and keep weaving in and out of it to overtake slow-moving trailers? Why not just get onto a clearer lane closer to the center and floor it? What is wrong with overtaking from the left on a one way road? Is it because you can crash into someone else overtaking the same car from the other side? If this is why, I don't see how consistently overtaking from the right alleviates this risk. You could still crash into someone trying to retreat to the all-sacred left-most lane. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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mkeiyd wrote:seppuku wrote:McReggae wrote:I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? Precisely my question. Thank you. Ideally the different lanes should have different speed limits[minimum]. The outer most lane is for utility vehicles and buses,the second outer most for heavy trucks,the next for slow moving and lastly,the inner most for the fastest. Not unless you drive with your eyes on the speedometer, you wouldn't know when you drop to 95kmh,so unless overtaking,leave the inner most lane alone. I see guys driving at 80kmh and hogging the inner most lane,it should be made illegal. I agree with you in principle. I just don't think the categories are that discrete. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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@seppuku . This is where I say lets pray! I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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seppuku wrote:mukiha wrote:Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why!
Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking.
Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side.
Hope that clears things up.
The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Wewe mtu ya hesabu, which numbers are these you are quoting? Anyway, very well said. But my question is why? Why fanatically cling onto the left-most lane and keep weaving in and out of it to overtake slow-moving trailers? Why not just get onto a clearer lane closer to the center and floor it? What is wrong with overtaking from the left on a one way road? Is it because you can crash into someone else overtaking the same car from the other side? If this is why, I don't see how consistently overtaking from the right alleviates this risk. You could still crash into someone trying to retreat to the all-sacred left-most lane. @seppuku first there are basic rules. After observing the basic, then you can apply others. For example, it's basic rule to overtake on the right. Which means most drivers look at the right mirror more often than the left mirror. By default, many drivers will assume others will overtake from the right. So it does not mean you cannot overtake from the left on dual road. But the risk is higher than when you overtak from the right. Hence the first highwayrule: keep left.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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seppuku wrote:mkeiyd wrote:seppuku wrote:McReggae wrote:I get Seppuku's point, 110km/hr should be the maximum speed so nobody should be overtaking you!!!!.....why then stick to the left and change lanes every now and then as you overtake the slower ones??? Precisely my question. Thank you. Ideally the different lanes should have different speed limits[minimum]. The outer most lane is for utility vehicles and buses,the second outer most for heavy trucks,the next for slow moving and lastly,the inner most for the fastest. Not unless you drive with your eyes on the speedometer, you wouldn't know when you drop to 95kmh,so unless overtaking,leave the inner most lane alone. I see guys driving at 80kmh and hogging the inner most lane,it should be made illegal. I agree with you in principle. I just don't think the categories are that discrete. The keep left unless overtaking is discrete enough. Everyone with some common sense should know the inner most lane is for the fastest.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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seppuku wrote:mukiha wrote:Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why!
Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking.
Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side.
Hope that clears things up.
The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Wewe mtu ya hesabu, which numbers are these you are quoting? Anyway, very well said. But my question is why? Why fanatically cling onto the left-most lane and keep weaving in and out of it to overtake slow-moving trailers? Why not just get onto a clearer lane closer to the center and floor it? What is wrong with overtaking from the left on a one way road? Is it because you can crash into someone else overtaking the same car from the other side? If this is why, I don't see how consistently overtaking from the right alleviates this risk. You could still crash into someone trying to retreat to the all-sacred left-most lane. Why; why; why? Because that's the rule. Everybody mus obey it for the good of everybody else. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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AlphDoti wrote:seppuku wrote:mukiha wrote:Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why!
Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking.
Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side.
Hope that clears things up.
The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Wewe mtu ya hesabu, which numbers are these you are quoting? Anyway, very well said. But my question is why? Why fanatically cling onto the left-most lane and keep weaving in and out of it to overtake slow-moving trailers? Why not just get onto a clearer lane closer to the center and floor it? What is wrong with overtaking from the left on a one way road? Is it because you can crash into someone else overtaking the same car from the other side? If this is why, I don't see how consistently overtaking from the right alleviates this risk. You could still crash into someone trying to retreat to the all-sacred left-most lane. @seppuku first there are basic rules. After observing the basic, then you can apply others. For example, it's basic rule to overtake on the right. Which means most drivers look at the right mirror more often than the left mirror. By default, many drivers will assume others will overtake from the right. So it does not mean you cannot overtake from the left on dual road. But the risk is higher than when you overtak from the right. Hence the first highwayrule: keep left. So, what happens when you are safely overtaking from the right and the other safe driver 2 lanes away to your right is busy careening back to the left-most lane? If anything, thinking that no one is going to be coming from that side is what is dangerous. You will be far less careful than the guy who accepts that "overtakers" can pop out even from the dividing wall. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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mukiha wrote:seppuku wrote:mukiha wrote:Driving lesson number 2384: The maximum speed limit on Thika highway is 100km/h; not 110km/h. It was reduced after the expansion - only God knows why!
Driving lesson number 2169: There is nothing like a "fast lane" in the highway code. All vehicles must be driven on the left-most lane even if the road has 10 lane! The only exception is when you are overtaking.
Driving lesson number 1575: You should never overtake a vehicle from the left hand side.
Hope that clears things up.
The problem is that nowadays, there are no driving lessons to speak of and the driving test is one big sham! Wewe mtu ya hesabu, which numbers are these you are quoting? Anyway, very well said. But my question is why? Why fanatically cling onto the left-most lane and keep weaving in and out of it to overtake slow-moving trailers? Why not just get onto a clearer lane closer to the center and floor it? What is wrong with overtaking from the left on a one way road? Is it because you can crash into someone else overtaking the same car from the other side? If this is why, I don't see how consistently overtaking from the right alleviates this risk. You could still crash into someone trying to retreat to the all-sacred left-most lane. Why; why; why? Because that's the rule. Everybody mus obey it for the good of everybody else. But I contest the idea that it leads to everybody's good. I don't see how. To the contrary, it causes problems. And by observation, I think most drivers agree. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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