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Njunge		#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:33:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi		@Macdoba, Kulei or Cheruiyot can't be Kenyan government Old man about town.... Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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mukiha		#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:44:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114		In case you have overlooked it,US$5m = sh375m Even the Goldenberg architects did not take home that much each...... And you say that Kabuga can bribe with more than that.....? I don't think so,especially for consistently for so many years.... Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow) Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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extrablessed		#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:47:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/28/2007 Posts: 290 Location: Nairobi		@Brewer,I totally agree with u! if the US have seen him here,why didnt they capture him? If they can takeout an al-Qaeda in somali,why not a 'refugee' thug in a forested area in Kenya??? Anyway,if he was being hidden by a Mt. Kenya Mafia,the guy would have been rosted by Kalwale,Kajwang and the like. if hidden by ODM MPigs,then no chance....unless the RAO-Arap Milosovic war deteroriates... Life is worth living cos God planned it to be so.
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Djinn		#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:49:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		@Kularaha - yes. I stand by that. Right now we are just a few steps away from Zimbabwe...I think there are always undercurrents that we do not always see... The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
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KulaRaha		#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:51:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		Mukiha, Some facts for you: The longest-running is the Goldenberg scandal [2],where the Kenyan government subsidized exports of gold,paying exporters in Kenyan Shillings (Sh) 35% over their foreign currency earnings. In this case,the gold was smuggled from Congo. The Goldenberg scandal cost Kenya the equivalent of more than 10% of the country's annual GDP. The chief architect beyond the scheme was a relative of the Kenyan businessman Kamlesh Pattni. However,it was Pattni who established Goldenberg International to implement the scheme. [2] The very large sums involved (600 million dollars) indicate that the senior government officials were at least complicit. Almost all the politicians in the Moi government and a considerable percentage of the current Kibaki government have been accused. The judicial system also appears to have been deeply involved,with twenty three of Kenya's senior judges resigning after evidence indicated their involvement Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Brewer		#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:03:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/24/2008 Posts: 238		America thrives on the thinking of some people I have spotted here that: 'Kuna kitu,America must be right'. Since George Bush and his two terms in office America cannot always be right. On this one,they are being plain stupid. Ati Kenya government is hiding Kabuga. S*** we are fools to give this allegation even iota of belief. I can understand the allegation that some elements in government may know where he is but to say it is the government is to suggest it is part of its security policy to hide Kabuga. Even then whether it is individuals or government USA has led the way on how to deal with this: personally smoke the government official and write him a letter and tell him he is not welcome in America like Wako. What is their interest really? If I am not wrong the USA is not a signatory to whatever convention is responsible for genocide and war crimes,so they may not want Kabuga to go to the Hague. They may also not want him to go to guatanamo,that war crimes crime scene. I personally think the USA policy in Kenya is led by incompetents but they sure know they have local cheering crowd. Having said that I hope the Rwanda people will find closure to their sad history when the fellow is apprehended and tried.
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VituVingiSana		#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:08:00 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,378 Location: Nairobi		If not for the Americans (Smith Hempstone) daniel moi would still be effing us... well,not that we replaced him with anyone much better... but kibz+RAO are better than daniel moi in the theft/allocation department. * kabuga came to Kenya when dan moi & nick biwott were in power. There must have been some agreement. daniel moi used to scream 'sovereignty' while asking Kenyans to bend over while giving it to us... so to hell with sovereignty... We need JUSTICE for those killed by moi,biwott,ruto... and all the others... Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett**
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KulaRaha		#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:16:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		While defending OUR sovereinity,OUR democracy and OUR stability,I hope we dont forget how many this Kabuga killed. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Brewer		#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:26:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/24/2008 Posts: 238		VVS,you really cast your net wide- here i was thinking we are discussing Kabuga! Kularaha,you are right. The tragedy of the Rwanda genocide defies belief. I hope that USA is not playing politics with that tragedy. I sure hope no kenyan has a hand in hiding the fugitive.
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Djinn		#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:28:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		@KulaRaha - I once saw a document from the Arusha Tribunal,that places a good chunk of the genocide blame squarely on Paul Kagame - you will recall even one of this top people was detained/arrested in France. Things are not always what they seem....for all we know,Kabuga might just be a scapegoat...I'll try and look for that link - it makes for REALLY interesting reading,esp in relation to things that are currently happening in DRC (the pilfering of minerals by the UPDF,RPF at the behest of western MNCs) ....have you noticed how many more DRC cars/trucks we seem to have on our roads?????? The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
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