God is the convergence but from Him knowledge diverges.Like the sun,different rays of light observable from different places but one source.

Many religious threads here in wazua havr not really been about seeking the most high but competition on how much one can type away......I'm sorry to say.....nothing to encourage non believers who would otherwise wanna change their ways.

Existence has to be boxed in.Our understanding of vacuums is flawed.The universe can't have bubbles of infinite nothingness in them.No matter how small,such bubbles would engulf the universe itself.

In some ways I agree with @McReggae. Let this not be a contest in wordplay. To throw around such highfalutin terms as nothingness and quantum fields may impress some here, but it may also fail to teach us anything in the end. See, for man, God has utility only if He has influence over our life. If he has such influence, it seems logical to want to understand its nature and its extent. It also seems logical to want to understand any obligations one might have with respect to God. Do I need to pray, for example, or does God simply "do his will"? Do I need to tithe? Should I expect reward for doing good or punishment for doing evil? Can God speak to me? How would I know it is His voice? Is He there at all? How can I say for sure? Do I need to be able to say for sure? See, to me, these are questions with practical value.To say that God is Nothingness, or The Ultimate, or The Beginning and The End, does not help me define what kind of relationship, if any, I ought to endeavor to develop with Him.

'Existence has to be boxed in' by who or what? This boxing in is the 'religious act'. But the boundaries exist, and are 'arbitrary' limits.

In the 'end' there's no word.

The competition arises because God has been made a part of ego. If the ego was killed, then I doubt if there'd be believers and, or non believers.

Shouldn't it head to 'nowhere'? Or it shouldn't move at all.

Moses saw a 'part of His flesh'. What did Moses see?

Himself; a portion of His flesh.

[quote=seppuku]Yes, seriously. Who is God? What is your perception of him?

Marduk,Enki,Enlil,Isis,Asis,Ra,Thor,Zeus,Yahweh,Allah,Elohim,Ogun,....The more, the merrier.

Or if you are:
Moses- The creature that appeared to him in Exodus 24:10, 33:8-20

Ezekiel-The creatures that appeared to him in flying crafts. Ezekiel 1:4-26

Bill Gates/Ted Turner- Nothing.

Make your pick.

What we need is a Philosophy section in Wazualand , so that these Zen masters and cool philosophers can wax lyrical to their hearts' content. I suggest we call it "The Abstract".
Ever walked into a group of men arguing about their cars? Sometimes this is what these threads feel like. Please do not get lost in your own arguments, oh great ones. Somebody once said if you fly too high, you are likely to run out of air and come crashing down. Abstract everything and very little of use comes out.

@quicksand, and I say this: If you fly high enough, and fast enough, it is probable that you'll get into the point of oneness, and be the Sun itself.