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AlphDoti
#11 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 4:39:50 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Meduza wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
chepkel wrote:
@AlphDoti are you speculating or putting a point across. In other words, whats your point???

He doesn't miss a chance to throw barbs at chritianity...hides!!!

You see I'm just apealing to you smile

The idea of having man gods
There are many religions who have believed that some human being is actually God.
I take opportunity to appeal.
I take the examples I see here.
Now the example is Pope, in the Christianity.

There are Christians who claim that Jesus is God Liar Shame on you Pray
- That he is not just the son of Allah, but he's Allah.
- That he's part and the same thing as God.

That's why I appeal to such common sense
Because some people used to worship Mary, and some Christians used to believe also Mary is God.
Catholics believe that Mary is the mother of God!

Mother of God!
- That God had a mum
- So God used to say "mama mama"
- Changing God's nappy.
- Cleaning God's buttocks when he's done a poo.
- Feeding God.

This is what they say, "mother of God"!
What is this to say that some human being is God?

Allah makes things clear to us in the Quran.
Didn't he walk on earth, and breath air, and eat food, went to the market place to buy things...

See how people are deluded away from the truth Shame on you Shame on you

God says in the Quran if He wanted to destroy Jesus, or Mary or the world, who could stop Him?
Of course nobody!
That shows that God has power over Jesus and Mary.
God has power over them and they are under the authority of God.
They can't be the same as God.

What is this they say something is man and God at the same time!
This is an impossibility.

By definition
God is infinite, self sufficient, and eternal.

Human being by definition
is temporary, mortal, and needy.

How can something be eternal and temporary both at the same time?
How can something be self-sufficient and needy both at the same time?
How can something be eternal and finite both at the same time?

This is not inconsistency.
It is an impossibility by definition.

The Quran appeals to this as well:
"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say Of Allah ought but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, And His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and the Spirit proceeding From Him: so believe In Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: It will be better for you: For Allah is One God: Glory to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above Having a son. To Him (Allah) Belong all things in the heavens And on earth. And enough Is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.


My friend...religion is man made.. Respect what others believe, dont try to challenge it. No one wins with challenging it. Until the day the gods stand and fight and we watch to see which of them wins, then your faith and our beliefs is all you have here on earth.



Applause Applause Applause Agreed, this chest thumping that mine is better does not help anything!!!!

You are agreeing with @Meduza that Religion is man-made? I don't believe it is man-made.

There is no chest thumping. I'm just trying to open your eyes in some things you guys don't want to accept.

Your faith tells you to believe that Pope is infallible. Even when your common sense tells you he's just a human being.

Your faith says Pope is the leader of the fiathfuls, yet you say Pope has no faith enough to heal somebody... as Mark 16:17 says!

Quote:
... this infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed His Church to be endowed in defining doctrine of faith and morals
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tycho
#12 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 4:42:57 PM
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Much ado about nothing.
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AlphDoti
#13 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 7:03:19 PM
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tycho wrote:
Much ado about nothing.

It's not really... But I hope you realize that talks about "man-god" is gibberish Shame on you Shame on you

You're smart and intelligent person. You are man of understanding. Look at the universe and realize that you're just nothing compared to the Creator that put it in place... So don't mock the one who put you together in your mother's womb.

Just look at:
- day and night
- rain
- amazement of the seed
- our senses
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tycho
#14 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 7:48:50 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Much ado about nothing.

It's not really... But I hope you realize that talks about "man-god" is gibberish Shame on you Shame on you

You're smart and intelligent person. You are man of understanding. Look at the universe and realize that you're just nothing compared to the Creator that put it in place... So don't mock the one who put you together in your mother's womb.

Just look at:
- day and night
- rain
- amazement of the seed
- our senses


Today in the morning I was reading the 'Al Baqarah' and the following came to me; If the prophet Mohammad had not be 'born again' then he couldn't realize and expound the truth to others.

For it is known that the human mind always distorts what it hears as per the ego.

Thus not unless the ego is supplanted by the spirit of the most high then prophecy cannot be.

So Mohammed words are true if this condition was met.

This condition is called 'Man God'. The interpretation of the holy books is possible only under this condition.
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McReggae
#15 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 10:32:23 PM
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@Alphadoti, stick to propagating your faith, not taking the high pedestal that you are the master of every other person's faith......ala behaving like a typical fundermentalist.....your way or the road.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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guru267
#16 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 10:53:17 PM
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This "gay lobby" just shows the church in its current state is more of a political party than anything about God!

Pope Francis maybe the one sent by God to finally save Christianity from the great abyss!!

I love the way he is like "screw the golden throne, screw the Vatican palace, and screw your gay shit" Applause
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Caramba
#17 Posted : Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:55:18 PM
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Location: Nairobi
McReggae wrote:
Meduza wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
[quote=chepkel]@AlphDoti are you speculating or putting a point across. In other words, whats your point???

He doesn't miss a chance to throw barbs at chritianity...hides!!!


My friend...religion is man made.. Respect what others believe, dont try to challenge it. No one wins with challenging it. Until the day the gods stand and fight and we watch to see which of them wins, then your faith and our beliefs is all you have here on earth.



Applause Applause Applause Agreed, this chest thumping that mine is better does not help anything!!!!


Well said bro.Applause Applause Applause
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AlphDoti
#18 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:53:10 AM
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McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti, stick to propagating your faith, not taking the high pedestal that you are the master of every other person's faith......ala behaving like a typical fundermentalist.....your way or the road.

You mean I should not touch your Pope? Defending him to the grave, right?

Talk of blind faith.

Please explain to me what is all the incest snd pornographic stories, types and types of incest in the Bible.

No wonder you see this manifestation in the followers!
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McReggae
#19 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:18:01 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti, stick to propagating your faith, not taking the high pedestal that you are the master of every other person's faith......ala behaving like a typical fundermentalist.....your way or the road.

You mean I should not touch your Pope? Defending him to the grave, right?

Talk of blind faith.

Please explain to me what is all the incest snd pornographic stories, types and types of incest in the Bible.

No wonder you see this manifestation in the followers!


Mine is now blind faith, dude you are too obsessed with others, that ain't God's way.......you throw stones at others as you defend the sensless killings in the muslim community, SMH.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Euge
#20 Posted : Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:27:03 PM
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McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti, stick to propagating your faith, not taking the high pedestal that you are the master of every other person's faith......ala behaving like a typical fundermentalist.....your way or the road.


Well said McDoba.smile
Lord, thank you!
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