wazua Fri, Jul 4, 2025
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

3 Pages<123>
NBK FY 2012 RESULTS
Mainat
#21 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 8:23:42 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,590
Apart from the rise in staff costs (which can be fixed by firing), the real problem is the cost of funding. That is not sustainable and is not the way to run a bank...
Sehemu ndio nyumba
murchr
#22 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 10:42:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
jerry wrote:
murchr wrote:
Some thorough cleaning going on here, I really sympathise with the shushu's who hold this monkey.


You mean SHUSHUs and GUKAs? Advise the ones you know personaly if any.


The ones i see walking out of AGMs when the results read are an eye and earsore....I know none If i did i would advise accordingly. Sell n pick it up wh it lands down there.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
mwekez@ji
#23 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:04:39 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121


NBK freezes jobs as staff cost to total income ratio rises to outrageous 41% in FY 12.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....4/-/9ttiujz/-/index.html
youcan'tstopusnow
#24 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:58:36 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
mwekez@ji wrote:


NBK freezes jobs as staff cost to total income ratio rises to outrageous 41% in FY 12.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....-/9ttiujz/-/index.html

Can't help but notice Member's positionsmile
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#25 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:47:36 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:


NBK freezes jobs as staff cost to total income ratio rises to outrageous 41% in FY 12.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....-/9ttiujz/-/index.html

Can't help but notice Member's positionsmile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The Benchmark smile Let's see how this fast-track reforms & expansion NBK combo-pack will pan out. S/O Messrs McKinsey
Mainat
#26 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:32:33 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,590
As I said, reducing costs without working out how to source cheaper deposits is only a stopgap measure
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:38:02 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,221
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:


NBK freezes jobs as staff cost to total income ratio rises to outrageous 41% in FY 12.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....-/9ttiujz/-/index.html

Can't help but notice Member's positionsmile

True that @YCSUN on Member's management of costs. I side with @Hisah's prediction that Member will have a higher growth in stock price than Simba. I also believe they'l trounce simba profitwise in FY2013.
We await Q1 figures with bated breath!!
@SufficientlyP
Aguytrying
#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:05:28 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
NBK needs a major over haul if its to compete with the other banks. From branding to innovation and aggressiveness. In the meanwhile the non performing loans are worry some. Was it not for that and the high cost to income. It may be worth a recovery play at low price
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Mainat
#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:51:17 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,590
The ratio of npl to loans is not dissimilar to Simba's which has a staggering 14bn of non performing loans.
The difference is that Simba makes serious revenue.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Cde Monomotapa
#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:20:00 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
smile Absolute figures can be misleading. Relying on percentages is more credible IMO i.e NNPL or even GNPL as a % of the total loan book.
Mainat
#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:24:27 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,590
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
smile Absolute figures can be misleading. Relying on percentages is more credible IMO i.e NNPL or even GNPL as a % of the total loan book.

GNPL as a % of loans for Simba is 7% and 7.9% for NBK. Obviously, NBK's new CEO has emptied the cupboard...
The importnance of the absoulte number is that if you were doing a stress scenario, you'd want to see how a 50% write-off of the npls would impact the overall P&L.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
mwekez@ji
#32 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:58:48 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121
Mainat wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
smile Absolute figures can be misleading. Relying on percentages is more credible IMO i.e NNPL or even GNPL as a % of the total loan book.

GNPL as a % of loans for Simba is 7% and 7.9% for NBK. Obviously, NBK's new CEO has emptied the cupboard...
The importnance of the absoulte number is that if you were doing a stress scenario, you'd want to see how a 50% write-off of the npls would impact the overall P&L.


huh! when did 7 & 7.9% ratio become good¿ guyz you need to check Equity Bank that is less than half of that or I&M that is resting at 1% levels
Cde Monomotapa
#33 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:54:55 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
Management has given its (company specific) reasons & proposed solutions. As a Investor you either Buy, Sell or Avoid and forever hold your peace. Simple.
sparkly
#34 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:05:28 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
mwekez@ji wrote:


NBK freezes jobs as staff cost to total income ratio rises to outrageous 41% in FY 12.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....4/-/9ttiujz/-/index.html


Horrible company.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#35 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:09:10 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Management has given its (company specific) reasons & proposed solutions. As a Investor you either Buy, Sell or Avoid and forever hold your peace. Simple.


This share may be worth a speculative play for me. Its similar to where simba was a few years ago. If management can restructure and get the company back to where it was, and esp that cost of funds. That alone can reap handsome returns for an investor.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Cde Monomotapa
#36 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:26:10 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Management has given its (company specific) reasons & proposed solutions. As a Investor you either Buy, Sell or Avoid and forever hold your peace. Simple.

NB: NBK is still a going concern (Q1 '13 is over) & as a Investor is to acknowledge the co-relation btwn money mkt rates & cost of deposits. Comparing FY '12 & FY '13 rates is a stark difference clear as day. That's my trick no. 1. All that & more will be confirmed as results are rolled out.
Aguytrying
#37 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:32:19 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Management has given its (company specific) reasons & proposed solutions. As a Investor you either Buy, Sell or Avoid and forever hold your peace. Simple.

NB: NBK is still a going concern (Q1 '13 is over) & as a Investor is to acknowledge the co-relation btwn money mkt rates & cost of deposits. Comparing FY '12 & FY '13 rates is a stark difference clear as day. That's my trick no. 1. All that & more will be confirmed as results are rolled out.


I can ammend up there. You either, buy, sell or walk away (shut up)
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Mainat
#38 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:56:05 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,590
Mweke- not sure where I've said npls are a good thing. Was merely sayings NBK's is comparable to Simbas.
NBK needs to figure out who its customers are. End of. I haven't seen this in the McKinsey manual
Sehemu ndio nyumba
symbols
#39 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:05:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
What's happening with this counter?
Gadaffi
#40 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:39:42 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 2/13/2011
Posts: 284
Location: Nairobi
Nbk has done sm considerable mngt changes in its overall business poaching sm of th best guys from th competitor- Nic, Stanchart, Bbk.. The other main challange facing th co. Is th high n.o of staff in branches yet th customer volumes do not support that!
This stock is a Buy! I think with th ongoing changes, th stock cannot go lower than that. Again this is a good buy!!
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages<123>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2025 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.