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Mental health care
ChessMaster
#21 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:17:17 PM
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@tycho - Sorry to hear about your injuries. I agree,man is split in between two selves.Its a struggling battle.

@essyk - I believe the equation sounds good too.But I believe God + principles are the core because there are times when man will disappoint you.

@mukiri - I understand that the devil can play a role but how is he coming in here.

To be honest I'm more pulled towards how Buddha lived his life. You've got to be able to live life through the hardships and the good times.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
aemathenge
#22 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:41:48 PM
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I am of the opinion that mental ill health is not a bad thing.

If "Professor" Ochieng' is to be believed, the temporary insanity that afflicted this nation and, in this case the Rift Valley after the last erections, helped to "resolve" the vexing land question afflicting this "their" land.

I like to call myself a psycho of Wazua as Tyco so elegantly posits. What surprises me is that I am loving every second of it mostly because it is my will.

Half the registered voters in this Nation are prepared to vote for the Innocent Suspects because of Nationalism, Patriotism, against modern day communism? Tribalism?

Yes. That is my question. Who determines who is mentally healthy and what is the yard stick?

Enlighten me.
ChessMaster
#23 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:51:23 PM
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How come some many geniuses are diagnosed with some form of mental illness?
What role does the ego play in mental illness?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#24 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:28:30 PM
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If, Man has two selves, then two selves must be related.

Clearly, the Existential self is greater than the mental self till the Existential self is the mental self. Existence determines the mind.

Therefore, the mind works up to the Existential self.

Hence mental illness is the condition of the mind not working to its goal.

The working of the mind includes relationships, and all things and events in the world.

Normalcy, then is the tendency of the mind to change, and to conform to the Existential self.

Such a relation implies 'satisfaction' and pleasure. It is also a mutual relationship.

Normalcy is a state of mutual pleasure amongst a people.




tycho
#25 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:32:28 PM
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@Mahegoat, we all determine what normalcy is mainly because an individual is a point in a very wide relationship of individuals.

The yardsticks are mutual pleasure and freedom.
ChessMaster
#26 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:35:13 PM
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tycho wrote:
If, Man has two selves, then two selves must be related.

Clearly, the Existential self is greater than the mental self till the Existential self is the mental self. Existence determines the mind.

Therefore, the mind works up to the Existential self.

Hence mental illness is the condition of the mind not working to its goal.

The working of the mind includes relationships, and all things and events in the world.

Normalcy, then is the tendency of the mind to change, and to conform to the Existential self.

Such a relation implies 'satisfaction' and pleasure. It is also a mutual relationship.

Normalcy is a state of mutual pleasure amongst a people.






Now how do we determine what the existential self is or what are its goals.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
aemathenge
#27 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:41:08 PM
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tycho wrote:
The yardsticks are mutual pleasure and freedom.

Your posts and threads do not evoke mutual pleasure and freedom of understanding.

Do we then slot you under Mentally Unhealthy?

Or are WE then Mentally Unhealthy?
essyk
#28 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:43:23 PM
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ish.
Quote:
There is only one psychiatrist for every 500,000 people in Kenya.

Only a third of these psychiatrists work in the public sector, the rest only take on private patients at great expense.



symptoms of mental disorder

Feeling sad or down
Confused thinking or reduced ability to concentrate
Excessive fears or worries
Extreme mood changes of highs and lows
Withdrawal from friends and activities
Significant tiredness, low energy or problems sleeping
Detachment from reality (delusions), paranoia or hallucinations
Inability to cope with daily problems or stress
Extreme feelings of guilt
Alcohol or drug abuse
Major changes in eating habits
Sex drive changes
Excessive anger, hostility or violence
Suicidal thinking

Stonethrowing
Name calling
Online hostility
brb
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
josiah33
#29 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:47:07 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
tycho wrote:
The yardsticks are mutual pleasure and freedom.

Your posts and threads do not evoke mutual pleasure and freedom of understanding.

Do we then slot you under Mentally Unhealthy?

Or are WE then Mentally Unhealthy?

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tycho
#30 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:49:00 PM
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The question you have asked, forms the backbone of History. It is about the changes of the mind as it realizes its Existential self.

It is about us building on what our ancestors have built.

The knowledge passed to us must always be reordered to facilitate normalcy.

So far, we have not only Scripture, but also Science, to offer us work opportunities.

And Science is meant to help us to establish what is true.
aemathenge
#31 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:54:26 PM
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tycho wrote:
The question you have asked, forms the backbone of History. It is about the changes of the mind as it realizes its Existential self.

It is about us building on what our ancestors have built.

The knowledge passed to us must always be reordered to facilitate normalcy.

So far, we have not only Scripture, but also Science, to offer us work opportunities.

And Science is meant to help us to establish what is true.

In other words, we slot YOU under mentally unhealthy.
tycho
#32 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:55:49 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
tycho wrote:
The yardsticks are mutual pleasure and freedom.

Your posts and threads do not evoke mutual pleasure and freedom of understanding.

Do we then slot you under Mentally Unhealthy?

Or are WE then Mentally Unhealthy?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


It depends on which mind is not working to its Existential self.

If anyone of the minds is not working towards its goal, then the relationship is not normal.

tycho
#33 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:58:43 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
tycho wrote:
The question you have asked, forms the backbone of History. It is about the changes of the mind as it realizes its Existential self.

It is about us building on what our ancestors have built.

The knowledge passed to us must always be reordered to facilitate normalcy.

So far, we have not only Scripture, but also Science, to offer us work opportunities.

And Science is meant to help us to establish what is true.

In other words, we slot YOU under mentally unhealthy.


Elaborate.
aemathenge
#34 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:01:49 PM
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tycho wrote:
Elaborate.

You are kidding, right?
ChessMaster
#35 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:03:17 PM
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Establishing the existential self or normalcy is the problem.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
aemathenge
#36 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:10:59 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Establishing the existential self or normalcy is the problem.

Nah. Piece of cake. We have an resident expert. He even went into the archives and identified exhibits.
tycho
#37 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:12:16 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
tycho wrote:
Elaborate.

You are kidding, right?


Of course not! For example, I don't understand how you can speak of an exclusive 'we'!
ChessMaster
#38 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:16:13 PM
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I don't think medication is a permanent solution to mental health problems.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
aemathenge
#39 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:22:04 PM
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tycho wrote:
Neither has Wazua been spared. I am sure a visit to the archives will easily reveal that there are some Wazuans who are thought to be psychos.

The above We for a start.
tycho
#40 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:54:47 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Establishing the existential self or normalcy is the problem.


This isn't the problem, it is the work we should be engaged in. This is being.

Otherwise nothing would make sense. Even Wazua wouldn't exist.
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