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josiah33
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:50:25 AM
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What is marriage really? A church wedding, a civil wedding, come-we-stay or a marriage certificate?
bigbossman
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:57:17 AM
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mukiha wrote:
@bigbossman; initially, I thought it was the cost of a "full wedding" that you were afraid of. Now it appears that you are also afraid of "announcing to the world" that you are married.... getting married.

I wonder why....

Are you ashamed of your spouse?

Are you not ready for marriage?

The reason they make the announcements in Church is so that "anyone who knows a reason why the two should not be joined together" can come out and say it....or "forever hold their peace"

Now the reason is not necessarily some old flame who turns up with six kids claiming that you fathered them! It could also be a close friend of your partner who knows that she lives a secret life as a drug-dealer and has never told you about it..... wouldn't you want to know this before marrying her?

In all; I think you are not ready for marriage! You want to live a double life as a single and married man at the same time. Why?

I am also curious: why do you want the certificate now?

Am the kind of guy who doesn't like bothering the whole world and at the same time doesn't like the whole world bothering him. I like to keep to myself and keep it simple. Why do u ask why i need a marriage certificate? Of course i don't want anybody snatching whatever little property i have from my significant other when and if i die. You should know how useful a marriage certificate can be in some situations.
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bigbossman
#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:01:27 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
What is marriage really? A church wedding, a civil wedding, come-we-stay or a marriage certificate?

All marriages are the same to me. Even come we stay is marriage and if i could get a Marriage Certificate without a wedding, the better. Not that the certificate means much, but u know the law- u will not be able to prove your marriage easily if u don't have that piece of paper.
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mukiha
#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:03:37 AM
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bigbossman wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@bigbossman; initially, I thought it was the cost of a "full wedding" that you were afraid of. Now it appears that you are also afraid of "announcing to the world" that you are married.... getting married.

I wonder why....

Are you ashamed of your spouse?

Are you not ready for marriage?

The reason they make the announcements in Church is so that "anyone who knows a reason why the two should not be joined together" can come out and say it....or "forever hold their peace"

Now the reason is not necessarily some old flame who turns up with six kids claiming that you fathered them! It could also be a close friend of your partner who knows that she lives a secret life as a drug-dealer and has never told you about it..... wouldn't you want to know this before marrying her?

In all; I think you are not ready for marriage! You want to live a double life as a single and married man at the same time. Why?

I am also curious: why do you want the certificate now?

Am the kind of guy who doesn't like bothering the whole world and at the same time doesn't like the whole world bothering him. I like to keep to myself and keep it simple. Why do u ask why i need a marriage certificate? Of course i don't want anybody snatching whatever little property i have from my significant other when and if i die. You should know how useful a marriage certificate can be in some situations.


The certificate is useless when it comes to property inheritance!

If you had fathered some kid outside wedlock the certificate will not stop the kid from laying claim on your property!

If you really want to protect your wife from search claims, then register everything that you own in HER name alone. I assume that you trust her that much...that she won't throw you out!

But still, why are you assuming that you will die before her?
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#15 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:06:37 AM
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BTW:

You don't a certificate to be married; and you don't need a wedding to get a marriage certificate
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
bigbossman
#16 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:11:49 AM
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mukiha wrote:
bigbossman wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@bigbossman; initially, I thought it was the cost of a "full wedding" that you were afraid of. Now it appears that you are also afraid of "announcing to the world" that you are married.... getting married.

I wonder why....

Are you ashamed of your spouse?

Are you not ready for marriage?

The reason they make the announcements in Church is so that "anyone who knows a reason why the two should not be joined together" can come out and say it....or "forever hold their peace"

Now the reason is not necessarily some old flame who turns up with six kids claiming that you fathered them! It could also be a close friend of your partner who knows that she lives a secret life as a drug-dealer and has never told you about it..... wouldn't you want to know this before marrying her?

In all; I think you are not ready for marriage! You want to live a double life as a single and married man at the same time. Why?

I am also curious: why do you want the certificate now?

Am the kind of guy who doesn't like bothering the whole world and at the same time doesn't like the whole world bothering him. I like to keep to myself and keep it simple. Why do u ask why i need a marriage certificate? Of course i don't want anybody snatching whatever little property i have from my significant other when and if i die. You should know how useful a marriage certificate can be in some situations.


The certificate is useless when it comes to property inheritance!

If you had fathered some kid outside wedlock the certificate will not stop the kid from laying claim on your property!

If you really want to protect your wife from search claims, then register everything that you own in HER name alone. I assume that you trust her that much...that she won't throw you out!

But still, why are you assuming that you will die before her?

You don't get me- i have no kids with any other woman out there. I would register the property in her name if it came to that but isn't it easier and logical that she is legally registered as my wife instead? I am not planning to die soon but just incase i do i don't want some brother or sister or parent giving my dear wife hell because of what i acquired myself. Hope u understand now.
LIFE IS SO GOOD
bigbossman
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:16:00 AM
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mukiha wrote:
BTW:

You don't a certificate to be married; and you don't need a wedding to get a marriage certificate

That's exactly what i wanted to know. Thanx bro/sis.
LIFE IS SO GOOD
mukiha
#18 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:25:19 AM
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FYI @bigbossman; When you go to the AG's office to register you marriage, they will post your names on the notice board for 21 days and also in the Kenya Gazette!

Which is worse: to be announced to a few hundred people in church or to thousands and the AG's
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
bigbossman
#19 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:33:25 AM
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mukiha wrote:
FYI @bigbossman; When you go to the AG's office to register you marriage, they will post your names on the notice board for 21 days and also in the Kenya Gazette!

Which is worse: to be announced to a few hundred people in church or to thousands and the AG's

I am sure alot of people i know or who know me wouldn't be looking there and not so many people know about the Kenya Gazzette. And if they happened to go through the Kenya Gazzette they might just easily miss my name or if they did see it, it might not have the same impact as being announced in church. In any case, the few hundred mouths in church are enough to spread the news to the furthest corners of the earth.
LIFE IS SO GOOD
chemos
#20 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:43:00 AM
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bigbossman wrote:
mukiha wrote:
FYI @bigbossman; When you go to the AG's office to register you marriage, they will post your names on the notice board for 21 days and also in the Kenya Gazette!

Which is worse: to be announced to a few hundred people in church or to thousands and the AG's

I am sure alot of people i know or who know me wouldn't be looking there and not so many people know about the Kenya Gazzette. And if they happened to go through the Kenya Gazzette they might just easily miss my name or if they did see it, it might not have the same impact as being announced in church. In any case, the few hundred mouths in church are enough to spread the news to the furthest corners of the earth.



stop going to that church.. it seems you have issues with the flock there...

A simple way is to just go to an advocate and sign an affidavit that you are married under customary laws... Most companies accept this as proof of co-habiting/marriage etc.. esp if u want to include her in ur insurance cover...etc...
For ur case just choose a lawyer who doesnt know you since it seems you have an issue with people knowing ur formalizing ur come we stay arrangements..
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