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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'. Need a yes no answer, physical or not? LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'. Need a yes no answer, physical or not? Yes. Physical, and spiritual in harmony.
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limanika wrote:Search from deep within and you will get somewhere. Many mortals, in their weakness and endeavour to lead a carefree exisistence on earth, try to convince themselves there is no life after death...but there is always that small voice from deep within There is no small voice within me....I am not weak minded, I know there is no heaven or hell, once you die, you are worm food, six feet under, dead and that's it....No heaven no hell no afterlife none of that nonsense....You guys need to tell your imaginary god first of all, that I said hi and then ask him when his son Jesus is coming back...lol...
What is he coming back for? We don't need him,(I am speaking in jest because this Jesus guy does not exist anyway)....And if he is coming back, where is he going to live? In the States, in Israel, Kenya? Where? And is he still going to be riding camels or does he now have a driver's licence? lol....Will he have to get a job or how is he going to eat and earn a living? If he is still a carpenter, then it might be really hard for him to scrape through in this uber competitive world....he might have to go back to school and get some more skills and maybe learn how to use a computer for starters...Hehehehehehe....
We don't need him to come back, for what? What we need from your god (who only exists in your heads by the way) is a cure for Cancer and AIDS....We don't need his son to come here and turn water into wine, we have bigger problems than a shortage of wine at some party, we don't need a hippie guy riding a camel to come down here to tell us not to kill and not to steal, we already know that those things are wrong, so what is he coming down here to teach us?
Instead of your god sending this Jesus character to come and ride around in camels and donkeys and telling us 11th century nonsense, why doesn't this god guy end the suffering in this world instead? That would be more practical and more beneficial to mankind than sending that hippie to come and walk around with 12 disciples following him doing nothing other than telling us common sense shit that we can already figure out on our own....
What we need is this god guy to stop children from dying of starvation.....That's what most pertinent..Ati Jesus is coming back? Coming back to do what? If he is coming back, he better come back with the cure for Cancer, Diabetes, AIDS, etc and enough food to feed all the starving children, and enough remedies for all the people who are facing difficulties everyday...Also, a miracle to end all the suffering in this world would be nice, otherwise he better keep his ass where he is because we don't need him riding around on camels and wasting our time if he doesn't have a solution to end the suffering in this world....
If he comes down and gets rid of sin and stops all the suffering on earth, then I will be the first person to buy him a cold beer...shoot, I might even take him to Vegas and party with him all week to show my gratitude, otherwise he should just stay up there or wherever this heaven place is and continue riding his camels. Heaven and hell is utter nonsense. They don't exist, only in weak minded people believe such nonsense.
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@ hamburglar Are you for real???!!!  Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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InnovateGuy wrote:@ hamburglar Are you for real???!!! Finally Innovate meets Hamburglar.  Make sure you drink lots of water before replying his post. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'. Need a yes no answer, physical or not? Yes. Physical, and spiritual in harmony. ok, that's what u believe. LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:limanika wrote:Search from deep within and you will get somewhere. Many mortals, in their weakness and endeavour to lead a carefree exisistence on earth, try to convince themselves there is no life after death...but there is always that small voice from deep within There is no small voice within me....I am not weak minded, I know there is no heaven or hell, once you die, you are worm food, six feet under, dead and that's it....No heaven no hell no afterlife none of that nonsense....You guys need to tell your imaginary god first of all, that I said hi and then ask him when his son Jesus is coming back...lol...
What is he coming back for? We don't need him,(I am speaking in jest because this Jesus guy does not exist anyway)....And if he is coming back, where is he going to live? In the States, in Israel, Kenya? Where? And is he still going to be riding camels or does he now have a driver's licence? lol....Will he have to get a job or how is he going to eat and earn a living? If he is still a carpenter, then it might be really hard for him to scrape through in this uber competitive world....he might have to go back to school and get some more skills and maybe learn how to use a computer for starters...Hehehehehehe....
We don't need him to come back, for what? What we need from your god (who only exists in your heads by the way) is a cure for Cancer and AIDS....We don't need his son to come here and turn water into wine, we have bigger problems than a shortage of wine at some party, we don't need a hippie guy riding a camel to come down here to tell us not to kill and not to steal, we already know that those things are wrong, so what is he coming down here to teach us?
Instead of your god sending this Jesus character to come and ride around in camels and donkeys and telling us 11th century nonsense, why doesn't this god guy end the suffering in this world instead? That would be more practical and more beneficial to mankind than sending that hippie to come and walk around with 12 disciples following him doing nothing other than telling us common sense shit that we can already figure out on our own....
What we need is this god guy to stop children from dying of starvation.....That's what most pertinent..Ati Jesus is coming back? Coming back to do what? If he is coming back, he better come back with the cure for Cancer, Diabetes, AIDS, etc and enough food to feed all the starving children, and enough remedies for all the people who are facing difficulties everyday...Also, a miracle to end all the suffering in this world would be nice, otherwise he better keep his ass where he is because we don't need him riding around on camels and wasting our time if he doesn't have a solution to end the suffering in this world....
If he comes down and gets rid of sin and stops all the suffering on earth, then I will be the first person to buy him a cold beer...shoot, I might even take him to Vegas and party with him all week to show my gratitude, otherwise he should just stay up there or wherever this heaven place is and continue riding his camels. Heaven and hell is utter nonsense. They don't exist, only in weak minded people believe such nonsense. Am sure when u die and your consciousness lives on u will still be denying if heaven and hell exists. You will be in either of the two though heaven and hell wouldn't be what people say they are or you might just stick around here not even aware that u are dead as u keep denying yourself what's beyond.. LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'. Need a yes no answer, physical or not? Yes. Physical, and spiritual in harmony. ok, that's what u believe. Not what I believe. What, and where I am.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:Heaven is where Man and God relate in mutuality.
Death is also the lowest form of being for the human. That is ways of the flesh, devoid of sight. That is why the fall of Man is described as death.
And when man sees the light, he 'acquires' eternal life.
Heaven is a world.
A physical world? World is what you see, hear, and speak forth, or 'name'. Need a yes no answer, physical or not? Yes. Physical, and spiritual in harmony. ok, that's what u believe. Not what I believe. What, and where I am. Ok. LIFE IS SO GOOD
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