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Tokyo
#11 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 4:43:54 AM
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One logical evidence that god exists.?
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githundi
#12 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:26:38 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
One logical evidence that god exists.?

you exist.
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Tokyo
#13 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:34:52 AM
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githundi wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
One logical evidence that god exists.?

you exist.

Mind to Proof ??
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felicity
#14 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:29:33 AM
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Elder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Elder wrote:
Is there death after life?

life after death?

He meant death after the life after initial earthly death.

Exactly. After hell or heaven can one die again? Or we would be subjected to eternal boredom (if it is true that there will be continuous singing and looking at gold in heaven, lambs and lions gossiping and eating grass, etc) or eternal hell.

He he I have never looked at it that way, but sure that's looks like boring to life!
KenyanLyrics
#15 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:43:34 PM
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The concept of hell was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I' find it rather nasty how Christians flippantly believe that the person who loves them the most will burn them alive for eternity. Have you actually seen someone being burnt alive? Its horrific! Take a look for yourself in this clip:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c5f_1309711220

How do you believe that the person who loves you the most can do that to you?
kyt
#16 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:53:46 PM
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if the bible is to be believed, hell was created, anything that has been created has a beginning hence it has an end. so hell is not eternal.
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maka
#17 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 2:04:43 PM
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http://www.konig.org/wc247.htm
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#18 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 2:17:31 PM
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kyt wrote:
if the bible is to be believed, hell was created, anything that has been created has a beginning hence it has an end. so hell is not eternal.

@kyt thats human thinking..
possunt quia posse videntur
scout_boy
#19 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:57:28 AM
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KenyanLyrics

Always make a point of reading the bible before making such conclusions.


The bible does not say God will burn or torture individuals in hell.This is Quranic thinking with due respect.


Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.



Note the usage of the words "able to" as opposed to "going to"

Back to the subject : Can a Loving God and hell exist simulateneously?

Yes.



Since Hell is associated with God's wrath.This wrath/anger is properly contained and is reserved in a certain location
or locations.This creates the basis for the lake of fire.

Can human beings get there as a destination?
Since from statements above God and Hell are in existence.

Working with the knowledge that there other creatures besides human beings.Suppose a conflict arises between them and human beings and these creatures throw men into hell.
We now have men in hell.



Is the fire eternal:
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched.
chiaroscuro
#20 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 8:38:55 AM
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kyt wrote:
if the bible is to be believed, hell was created, anything that has been created has a beginning hence it has an end. so hell is not eternal.


Book, chapter and verse?
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