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WESTGATE SHOPPER BEWARE
rock
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:46:04 AM
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grolut wrote:
Moral of the story, always check for loo roll before unzipping.

There are times when the urgency is more important than that tissue and you take care of biz first then cross that bridge later.People have used t-shirts,underwear,hankies,water,biz cards,wallets etc to clean up after
AlphDoti
#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:03:09 AM
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This is unacceptable!!!

@hamburglar this is the attitude leading to poor service and you want to tolerate Shame on you Shame on you
DO you ever think of how much they get from you when you spend your money there!!!

@Sarrouniya restaurants hawana bahati! They incur unnecessary costs when customers take their serviettes/napkins because management cannot provide tissue Pray Pray

Maybe as Kenyans, we need to embrace new culture just like we Muslims do - using a bidet.
People should consider introduce user friendly toilets which have an option for use of water for those who require this option.

I wonder what the situation was like before toilet paper came into fashion Think

Don't you think that people used water to wash themselves?
Ideally, toilet paper is a 'drying' agent and NOT so good as 'cleaning' material as many people belief.

This option has advantages:
1. It is a key to green world.
2. It also provides important health benefits including increased cleanliness, and the therapeutic effect of water on damaged skin (e.g. hemorrhoids).
3. Saves costs on toilet tissue paper!



grolut
#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:12:23 AM
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rock wrote:
grolut wrote:
Moral of the story, always check for loo roll before unzipping.

There are times when the urgency is more important than that tissue and you take care of biz first then cross that bridge later.People have used t-shirts,boxers,hankies,water,wallets etc to clean up after


Hahaha wallets! I understand though I was there once in primary, the prefect was so stingy and gave me literally two sheets of tissue. Needless to say I went home bila underwear.
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jamplu
#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:25:03 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Oh give me a break, you can't indict a whole mall and especially a great place like arte cafe because of one isolated incident...Shit (pun intended) happens, but that doesn't mean that we should now boycott westgate enmasse just because of a little TP incident....

Your friend got out of this little sticky situation unscathed, it's not like shit had literally hit the fan in the bathroom and he looked liked the proverbial who shot john in the aftermath....Don't throw people's businesses under the bus because of such a small inconvenience....It's not cool at all.


and why should we settle for lousy service! if you are out to provide a service offer the best. Those little things you calling inconveniences are what matters to the customer if you can't offer a loo roll then you don't value your customers.
AlphDoti
#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:35:07 PM
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And just to add, for those looking for jobs, check-in to the loo and see before you accept the offer. That's exactly how they will treat you!!!
premio
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:50:28 PM
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if it was a one-off incident ideally westgate has 3 floors and each of the male washrooms has 5 toilets 1 for handicapped and a bathroom. on the April incident i checked all the floors and none had tp, does that sound as if they care. Were determined to complain to the management but at that time 9pm only security officce is open. In most places like at the aiport and malls there is always a sheet where the cleaners log in and sign every 1 hour tha cleaning has been done and that should include re-stocking. westgate has contracted a company but do they do inspection to make sure standards are good
essyk
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:50:05 PM
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You could all be on their case when the culprits are right under ur noses.
Has anybody complained to the management yet?
Till that happens and feedback is obtained it's not fair to point a finger.
People carry out rolls back home, not exempting the cleaners.
If tissue is supposed to be there then it means there is a budget allocated for that by the management so kuna mtu in the process eating the rolls.

They can check their cctvs washike mwizi.
But again a ladies wouldnt complain of such cz we are always armed
Au wacha kuzoea public loos.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
chiaroscuro
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:59:31 PM
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essyk wrote:
You could all be on their case when the culprits are right under ur noses.
Has anybody complained to the management yet?
Till that happens and feedback is obtained it's not fair to point a finger.
People carry out rolls back home, not exempting the cleaners.
If tissue is supposed to be there then it means there is a budget allocated for that by the management so kuna mtu in the process eating the rolls.

They can check their cctvs washike mwizi.
But again a ladies wouldnt complain of such cz we are always armed
Au wacha kuzoea public loos.


I tried opening their website but "the cow refused"! What else can one do?
hamburglar
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:04:28 PM
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premio wrote:
Ham this is not a little incident as u think, Artcaffe have no fault coz they pay hundreds of thousands to westgate mall to make sure that their clients are comfortable.If u had read the thread well u wud have realized that the first time i treated it as a one off but not yesterday. I dine out at KFC Juntion, Galleria mall and yaya and beleive me their gents are clean and always stocked.



I agree with you Premio, if it's a repeat offender then there is definitely a problem there. I guess I didn't completely read your post and missed out on the part that said that it had happened before. My bad for jumping the gun...If it's something that has happened more than once then you are right on shedding light on the issue so that others can be aware and maybe even best case scenario, arte cafe can be notified one way or the other....

But with that being said, I tend to think that maybe somebody (janitorial staff maybe) might be making away with the TP...It might even be some rogue customer stooping low (literally)...I am having a hard time trying to reconcile how an establishment like that would drop the ball on such a trivial thing as TP....Customer service especially in the service industry is hugely paramount and I doubt that they would be so careless as to ruin their reputation with something as mundane as that....I think somebody (subordinate staff maybe) is stealing the TP or the janitorial company is not stocking TP as required....

I am willing to cut Westgate some slack on this because I just have a feeling that it's not really their fault, somebody is doing them dirty and they are oblivious of the fact....If it was some random hole in the wall bar somewhere missing TP, I wouldn't be as surprised because unfortunately, I kind of half-expect something like that to happen in a random run of the mill bar, but by my estimation, westgate should be above the TP shenanigans.....
jaggernaut
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:16:40 PM
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Don't they have supervisors who ensure that everything is running ok? I normally see cleaning staff permanently stationed in the washrooms at Westgate and they must know when things run out. Maybe they lock the tissue when logging off. That said this is totally unacceptable and has never happened even at my local pub.
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