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eboomerang
#21 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:30:07 PM
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Sad Sad Pray

Such are the things that could cause 07/08 look like a walk in the park.
kenmac
#22 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:37:03 PM
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for starters, Muigai Njoroge was a mungiki member.

......Ecclesiastes
kenmac
#23 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:40:27 PM
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and I came across this plombox at zimmerman during the weekend with posters written aguambo.
......Ecclesiastes
Lolest!
#24 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:22:56 PM
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So the old song that goes-nie ngarua ndenda, Wamera niatuire should be blacklisted too?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
harrydre
#25 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:57:44 PM
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This is bad and these songs should be banned! I could be wrong but these guys are just out to make quick cash in this election year.
i.am.back!!!!
simonkabz
#26 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:14:16 AM
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Weee @Laughing out loudly, that was not a hate song, rather a legendary one. The three must be banned n the singers charged in court. Kamande is actually a favourite, but his careless daliance with politics deserves no mercy. Can't these idiots sing for love n unity? What informed them to insult a whole community simply coz they don't go for the cut? Jail them!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lolest!
#27 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:46:20 AM
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@kabz, have u watched the videos? Is the interpretation true? ... Imagine you own a vernacular station, wont u hesitate before playing any song touching on the cut? Hutia ngoige by wa Kioi has a contentious line too- Hutia ngoige nduri wekwo ati, hutia ngoige ukoragwo wi omera, where do we draw the line?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Robinhood
#28 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:15:14 AM
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What pains me is the fact that there are people ready to excuse this nonsense as freedom of expression.

I dare say Kibunjia will investigate till the cows come home. When will this guy stop talking and do something? Nkt
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
nostoppingthis
#29 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:01:25 AM
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It is a nice surprise to see some Wazuans castigating this type of music!!! Applause Applause

But honestly, I don't see Kibunja doing anything..and the fact that when convicted you either get 7 years or pay 1 million...no guessing which one the musicians will choose...
essyk
#30 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:17:21 AM
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Was told they are healing songs. Esp one githuke


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Lolest!
#31 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:32:34 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
@kabz, have u watched the videos? Is the interpretation true? ... Imagine you own a vernacular station, wont u hesitate before playing any song touching on the cut? Hutia ngoige by wa Kioi has a contentious line too. Hutia ngoige nduri wekwo ati, hutia ngoige ukoragwo wi omera, where do we draw the line?

I mean is the translation correct? Any Gikuyu speaker who has verified?
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Lolest!
#32 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:34:28 AM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
It is a nice surprise to see some Wazuans castigating this type of music!!! Applause Applause

But honestly, I don't see Kibunja doing anything..and the fact that when convicted you either get 7 years or pay 1 million...no guessing which one the musicians will choose...

That law doesn't have the phrase 'or both'?
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Njung'e
#33 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:46:26 AM
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Lolest! wrote:

That law doesn't have the phrase 'or both'?


It has!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
King G
#34 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:04:55 AM
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the phrase has ' either or both' but this is Kenya and the 1 million is upto so he can be fined less something like 50k.
Thieves
nakujua
#35 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:12:27 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
@kabz, have u watched the videos? Is the interpretation true? ... Imagine you own a vernacular station, wont u hesitate before playing any song touching on the cut? Hutia ngoige by wa Kioi has a contentious line too. Hutia ngoige nduri wekwo ati, hutia ngoige ukoragwo wi omera, where do we draw the line?

I mean is the translation correct? Any Gikuyu speaker who has verified?


if you do a word for word translation the meaning gets lost, coz they have used a lot of sayings and religious connotations (actually they are heavily based on religion and politics) so interpreting the same is a bit muddy.

I don't think there is much in the songs, just some guys trying to make some extra cash.
alma
#36 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:24:47 AM
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Here is some hate speech for you.

I think Kibunja and his team are just toothless lions and they have done nothing, don't do anything and will never do anything to anyone anyhow.

If they still want to wait for the "official" interpretation of the songs, then exactly what do they do in those offices other than get free tax payer money.

It was on youtube even mzungus are commenting on the three songs. Arrest them, then let them go tetea themselves mbele.

But Mzalendo Kibunja and his smile are still "investigating". Their very presence in those offices is hate speech.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
simonkabz
#37 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:29:32 AM
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Hate speech in every sense of the word. Those with a soft spot for UK appear to be making all manner of skewed interpretations. Like I said, I always felt time would catch up with them. @Lolest, the ones you mention are not. The CONTEXT is totally different. Saddest thing is, Muigai is a gospel musician!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
MBILI
#38 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:28:59 PM
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I think the real Kenyans have moved on,these songs potray those who havent .Its very sad that any of us can think like this after what the nation went through.
2012
#39 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:56:57 PM
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I think they should be prosecuted and jailed ili iwe funzo.
It is sad that such prominent musicians would sink this low. Why couldn't they sing songs that talk to voters to elect who they think is great?

BBI will solve it
:)
AlphDoti
#40 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:03:10 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
@kabz, have u watched the videos? Is the interpretation true? ... Imagine you own a vernacular station, wont u hesitate before playing any song touching on the cut? Hutia ngoige by wa Kioi has a contentious line too. Hutia ngoige nduri wekwo ati, hutia ngoige ukoragwo wi omera, where do we draw the line?

I mean is the translation correct? Any Gikuyu speaker who has verified?


if you do a word for word translation the meaning gets lost, coz they have used a lot of sayings and religious connotations (actually they are heavily based on religion and politics) so interpreting the same is a bit muddy.

I don't think there is much in the songs, just some guys trying to make some extra cash.


Check link in the first post for brief translation of some of them.
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