This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni" ....Simply said,the "uncircumspected" are not to be sent to dowry negotiations....Literally... and i do not mean any offence or disrespect pliz!......First,Gachie is almost in the middle of Nairobi.Why pray would you want to take goats to your in-laws who live in the city?Here,common sense should have prevailed.Second,the Agikuyu dowry laws allow for part payment and the rest can be done in instalments,thus 10 goats would have sufficed and the remaining 30 paid over a life time.Third and most important,estimates for goats given here are for those sourced from Kia-Maiko.....The Agikuyu (And i know it also happens to many other communities) have a different benchmark for pricing of "animals of blood" (Indo cia thakame).........At current a goat wouldn't be more than Kshs 1500.

And so it's easy.Kshs 60,000.00 was probably the asking price and an initial 15K would have been good enough......You blew it for your friend .

You guys don't know Bukunyes well then
I have lived among them and calling one a 'Kihii' is an insult of the highest degree.
The groom party didn't consist of 'ihiis'
They are fully grown ndurumes

This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"

[Njung'e]

You took it literally.....In this statement,the word "cicunspect" is in inverted comas with a good reason.....Indeed to be reffered to a 'kihii" does not mean you are uncircumsised.....My grown up sons are my 'Ihiis'....and so am i to my dad....That's a lesson for another day.

On the honey part,this has long been replaced by sugar.....and since i find you to be a "good" bargainer,can my son have your daughter pliiiiiZ??

@essyk, some "kihii's" took a beehive to inlaws with bees and honey, they did not understand. Imagine the commotion. Consultation nimuhimu sana.

My grown up sons are my 'Ihiis'....and so am i to my dad..

I concur with mzee. We also say " ruracio rutithiraga" simply translated, dowry payment never ends. in fact it would be termed rude if you were to clear all your dowry in the first seating even if you had the cash. This would mean that once you get the wench , then mambo ya hiyo family imeishia hapo!

I concur with mzee. We also say " ruracio rutithiraga" simply translated, dowry payment never ends. in fact it would be termed rude if you were to clear all your dowry in the first seating even if you had the cash. This would mean that once you get the wench , then mambo ya hiyo family imeishia hapo!

@ESSYK was busy working out commission she would get on each ngoat as well as transport brokerage fees!
True but trying to help a friend too.
@Nyangao
True dowry is not the selling price but rather the bonding symbol between the two new families of the bride and the groom. Therefore it should never be paid in full all at once as it would demean its purpose. Also there is more respect between the groom and his in-laws when he knows he is still indebted to them.

Politics made the word 'kihii' be seen as offensive. I remember sometime back when Uhuru was defending Kibaki from ODM attacks and he asked 'Mareciria Kibaki ni kihii kiao?' NTV translated this to mean 'They think Kibaki is uncircumcised?'. This was clearly wrong. I remember wazuans, even the respected older ones who you'd expect to understand and interpret correctly siding with the NTV mistranslation.

The other misunderstood word is 'nyukwa'.