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Mater Hospital Heart run
QW25091985
#21 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:52:00 PM
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LOL. i think you guys are joking . i am yet to see a business be it public or private that operates WITHOUT profits .
those doctors have to be paid, those nurses have to be paid , water and electricity bills have to be paid . where will the money come from if they arent making any profit ????if they aren't engaging in profitable business activities ?
chiaroscuro
#22 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:14:13 PM
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faa wrote:

Mater hos just like other institutions like strathmore claim its not for profit. NGO`s are the only institution not for profit

Mater makes profits ,its not charity. If it wasn't for profit,it wouldn't be charging patient.

The not for profit line was a line used by NGO`s in the 20th century to solicit money from europen union and other donors especially from spain who would fall for it


QW25091985 wrote:
LOL. i think you guys are joking . i am yet to see a business be it public or private that operates WITHOUT profits .
those doctors have to be paid, those nurses have to be paid , water and electricity bills have to be paid . where will the money come from if they arent making any profit ????if they aren't engaging in profitable business activities ?


There is a big difference between a charity and a not-for-profit institution.

Charity depends on donors and provides services for free or at subsidised rates. A mission hospital, for example, is a charity. That's why their rates are so low.

The Mater hospital is not a charity. Patients pay the full cost of the service (this includes money to pay the doctors and nurses at the prevailing market rates, to buy the drugs, to maintain the wards at modern levels of comfort, to upgrade equipment etc)

However, the owners of the hospital [Catholic Church] never get paid any dividends.

This is the reason Mater is a lot more expensive than, say, Kijabe Mission Hospital. The latter relies heavily on donations from affiliate churches and other benevolent donors. Patients only pay "token fees" to give them a sense of dignity. Actually, many mission hospitals can run perfectly without charging a cent; but that would be dehumanising to the community.
QW25091985
#23 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:59:31 PM
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@chiaroscuro. but the bottom line is that they MAKE profit its just that the catholic owners never see it !
chiaroscuro
#24 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:46:20 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:
@chiaroscuro. but the bottom line is that they MAKE profit its just that the catholic owners never see it !


All the surplus is retained for the purpose of growth and development of the institution. Profit is for personal gain of the owners.

It's not just a question of semantics; there is real difference between profit and surplus. It becomes very crucial when designing policies to realise the mission of the institution. The idea of "maximising returns on investment for the owners" does not feature at all.

Unfortunately; many people working in such institutions [including senior managers] simply don't understand that concept. I remember trying to explain to some heads of departments at Gertrude's Garden Children's Hospital: they were shocked to hear that their is not a not-for-profit institution.
rryyzz
#25 Posted : Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:11:07 PM
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The issue is not about the hospital being a charity or Not for profit organization.It's all about who benefits from the voluntary contributions of the various sponsors and participants in the Mater heart run race.
Why do so many people participate in the Mater Heart run? It is because we are made to believe that our contributions will be used for the benefit of the many children with heart problems especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds. If our contribution is voluntary, why is such a genuine case asked for KShs 200,000 yet it's obvious they cannot afford.Even those of you with less than 6 children and in better paying jobs would have problems raising this amount unless of course you have medical insurance.
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#26 Posted : Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:38:10 PM
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just a media opportunity for corporates to feel good Ala Kenyans for kenyans
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
essyk
#27 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:53:04 PM
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essyk wrote:
What criteria is used to determine who benefits from this?
Cz this baby(a friend's) was diagonised with Congenital Heart Defect " Trancus Arteriosus Type I- She is required to undergo an URGENT open heart... surgery at a cost that is way above what the family can afford.
I understand they give priority to emergency cases? since the list is long?
I wish she benefits from this cz she's living on borrowed time.



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