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How to invest a 265 k bonus Received from my employer ?.
DtheK
#21 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:57:38 PM
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Forget mutual funds.Get yourself to the nearest CBK office or your bank and buy T bills worth 100k,
next buy a copy of business daily go to the "stocks/NSE" section then google "NSE 20-Share Index"
rank each stock in the list from your search according to the value of the PE column the lowest PE gets a value of 1 and so on then look at the Dividend yield column rank each stock from the Index with the stock with the highest value getting a rank of one and so on,
give each of the stocks a score by adding up the ranks the stocks with the lowest ten values are the ones to invest in,distribute your 100k among them in whatever way you like.The 65k buy KCB shares,they are the big boys of banking,the same industry that earned you a 1/4 million bonus how much you think they make?

charlow
#22 Posted : Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:12:43 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
customer wrote:
I talked to Old Mutua about putting in 100k for three months, and they told me the typical return is 3k Per Month !. Yeah, 3k!.


I dont understand why people put money in unit trusts yet you can manage your own investment. The money you give them they put it in stock market, treasury or off shore...yet they give you less returns...100000 @ the moment if you put it in treasury bills for 3 months you get Ksh.4000 or wait and see how deep the market will get and purchase counters with good dividend yield...



@Lovely2010 do you mean 4k after the entire three months or 4k for each month making a 12k??
QW25081985
#23 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2012 9:24:48 AM
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lol. !!! 3k per month ????. they need to start trading spot forex and binaries . do it right and you might be considering quitin your day job !
Difathas
#24 Posted : Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:17:55 AM
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i agree with lovely 2010 thread. invested 500k with britak 6 yrs back learned the hard way.i'm happy today after following this advice.
nikimani
#25 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2012 3:23:55 PM
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Hi, I thank you for the feedback guys.@ thermostatic investor, you invested 1M in our equity fund 6yrs ago, that was back in 2006, back then there was a bull market, the equity market was performing well as per the various market factors, subsequently the unit price for our equity fund must have been higher also,( btwn 270 and 290) anyone who invested in equities, at that time period bought high and now that the prices are low (todays price 224),do not panic and sell. If I were to give you a graph on price movements between 2003 and 2011, there are guys who got in when the old mutual equity fund was selling at ksh 100 in 2003, it has at times peacked at ksh 290, now that is a happy investor right there!. The logic in investment in equities as lovely2010 said is wait and see how deep the market will get and purchase counters with good dividend yield.... The reason for advising the investor above is, at the current time, the old mutual equity market is at a bargain price 224, it had gone to a low of 217, some smart investors bought in, this is the time for any investor to get in, as per the our experience. The fund deeps just before the election year and shoots afterwards- in 2007 it dipped to 228 just before the elections and shot to 295 in 2008!..anyway Mr. thermostatic investor you are still on the right track, the number of units you bought are still the same, you have not lost out on the long term! When the price shoots up, 2 or 3 yrs from now, you still gain on your capital investment… feel free to drop me an email with your account details.. plus I will even throw in compiled data on our equity fund on a chart.
@100k investor, thank you for showing interest in our investment products. you must have been advised on the old mutual money market, okay there are various factors in play here, your investment time period was too short-3months compared to the amount in investment 100k, and am sure you wanted a low risk venture and we all know the lower the risks the lower the returns. As at for the 3k monthly return, I d say it’s fair, unless you are in biashara, or a very competent forex trader like Mr. QW25081985 , anyway to make money from the money market, frankly you need lots of cash. Today’s old mutual money market rate is 12.4%, given an investor with ksh. 10 M, he or she will be assured of a clean ksh 100000 every month in his or her account. Okay, out of curiosity, did you consider putting your money in a fixed savings account, now, there you would have a reason to complain, I have heard of guys getting 4000 as interest as after an year! Every investment depends on a couple of factors, capital, time period, risk appetite, etc. I am sure we can work something out with you. We have a wide range of investment products.
@difathas, have you noticed you have the same time line as thermostatic investor? It is no coincidence. the same applies to you.
@lovely 2010 and DtheK, I agree with you, about going it alone…the advantage with unit trusts are many, pooled resources, diversified portfolio, professional management, liquidity of funds, flexibility on term of investment and security. But if you have the time to manage your portfolio, the professional knowledge to ensure you’re making profitable gains, a good risk appetite, and access to enough funds to comfortably invest and shield yourself from losses, you can go it alone. And Godspeed.
The Merchant
#26 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 2:27:57 PM
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Market very low, nunua stocks plus do some FX...for that see the thread on fx in investor section...
seeker*
#27 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25:45 PM
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DtheK wrote:
Forget mutual funds.Get yourself to the nearest CBK office or your bank and buy T bills worth 100k,
next buy a copy of business daily go to the "stocks/NSE" section then google "NSE 20-Share Index"
rank each stock in the list from your search according to the value of the PE column the lowest PE gets a value of 1 and so on then look at the Dividend yield column rank each stock from the Index with the stock with the highest value getting a rank of one and so on,
give each of the stocks a score by adding up the ranks the stocks with the lowest ten values are the ones to invest in,distribute your 100k among them in whatever way you like.The 65k buy KCB shares,they are the big boys of banking,the same industry that earned you a 1/4 million bonus how much you think they make?



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muthoniruth
#28 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2012 4:27:27 PM
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Hi,

if your aim is to grow your networth over time, I would suggest you consider starting your journey into real estate.

This quote got me thinking, that: "Ninety percent of all millionaires become so through owning real estate." -Andrew Carnegie

You can find pieces of land that cost that much that are genuine and have title deed.

One of the options you can look at is what the company I work for has to offer: I work for Thomson Group Limited, we have a current 20acre project which we are concluding soon having being a successful project.

The 20Acres are located next to the upcoming State Of The Art KCA University Kitengela Campus 10km from Kitengela town towards Isinya(isinya being 25km from Kitengela) and then 10KM off tarmac, but off tarmac distance is 10km due to meandering because this has been maasai land, the road is not used regularly/graded hence the meandering.

The potential of the place is hidden in the fact that ahead of the university or the area where the plots are located is the much talked about Konza ICT City(abt 15KM ahead) and interestingly, since we have Maasai friends in the area, it was mentioned in their last weekend's baraza meeting that KCA will be partnering with the govt to do a road from Kitengela to the ICT City (ofcourse via KCA and therefore via our area)

The railway line that is nearby has been earmarked for the electric train project connecting Konza City to Nairobi.

In future, you can decide to do your residential home, hostels for university students or rentals for lecturers and workers at the University.

Looking at trends of appreciation tht can help you predict the future, two years ago, we were purchasing an acre at Ksh 350,000. Today, if buying in block, an acre will go for Ksh 1,200,000.

Just a suggestion after seeing your question. You can contact me on muthoniruthie@gmail.com if you have more queries or 0721 676 663.

Good evening!
anika66
#29 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:41:54 PM
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customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray



Okay after all the advice you received, give us a feedback on how you finally invested the money and if your getting any good yield from it. This will encourage others in your situation. Wazuan's we should not just give advice but should also seek for feedback to see if our suggestions are helping us. I notice that some people have gone to even suggest to you investments worth 1 million bob although you indicated that you only have 265K. So what finally did you do with the bonus?
Keeping it all in the family
Ceinz
#30 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:22:05 PM
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seeker* wrote:
DtheK wrote:
Forget mutual funds.Get yourself to the nearest CBK office or your bank and buy T bills worth 100k,
next buy a copy of business daily go to the "stocks/NSE" section then google "NSE 20-Share Index"
rank each stock in the list from your search according to the value of the PE column the lowest PE gets a value of 1 and so on then look at the Dividend yield column rank each stock from the Index with the stock with the highest value getting a rank of one and so on,
give each of the stocks a score by adding up the ranks the stocks with the lowest ten values are the ones to invest in,distribute your 100k among them in whatever way you like.The 65k buy KCB shares,they are the big boys of banking,the same industry that earned you a 1/4 million bonus how much you think they make?



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guru267
#31 Posted : Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:02:45 PM
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muthoniruth wrote:
Hi,

if your aim is to grow your networth over time, I would suggest you consider starting your journey into real estate.

You can find pieces of land that cost that much that are genuine and have title deed.


Many Wazuans have got the word "real estate" very wrong...

Real estate business has never involved the purchase and sale of undeveloped "LAND"...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Kihangeri
#32 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 10:40:12 AM
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customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray


This is not the best time to get into the NSE. You do not know what ocampo 4 have up their sleeve and its an election year. Expect anything.

Join a Sacco Society and deposit the cash with them. You can earn interest of 7 to 12 from Saccos. 6 months down the line, you will qualify to borrow three times your deposits at a fixed interest of 12%. Take the cash and invest in good shares. By the end of 2013, you will be a millionaire.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
Gaitho dialogues.


Sakangu
#33 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 11:22:35 AM
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Kihangeri wrote:
customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray


This is not the best time to get into the NSE. You do not know what ocampo 4 have up their sleeve and its an election year. Expect anything.

Join a Sacco Society and deposit the cash with them. You can earn interest of 7 to 12 from Saccos. 6 months down the line, you will qualify to borrow three times your deposits at a fixed interest of 12%. Take the cash and invest in good shares. By the end of 2013, you will be a millionaire.



Best Advice so far, but instead of Shares, get a nice piece of land somewhere and wait for it to appreciate.
maka
#34 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 3:16:00 PM
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Sakangu wrote:
Kihangeri wrote:
customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray


This is not the best time to get into the NSE. You do not know what ocampo 4 have up their sleeve and its an election year. Expect anything.

Join a Sacco Society and deposit the cash with them. You can earn interest of 7 to 12 from Saccos. 6 months down the line, you will qualify to borrow three times your deposits at a fixed interest of 12%. Take the cash and invest in good shares. By the end of 2013, you will be a millionaire.


@Skangu i concur land at a nicely picked location will bring out of the ball park kind of returns look at places just at the outskirts of Nairobi and have the potential to grow...C kwa ubaya we have some of the most useless fund managers around I dont know what they learnt in school.
Best Advice so far, but instead of Shares, get a nice piece of land somewhere and wait for it to appreciate.

possunt quia posse videntur
QW25091985
#35 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 3:36:13 PM
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enda macha ( machakos ) bwana this konza city coming up will rock that small town ! property prices have already started shooting up ..
murchr
#36 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 6:19:15 AM
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customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray




DtheK wrote:
Forget mutual funds.Get yourself to the nearest CBK office or your bank and buy T bills worth 100k,
next buy a copy of business daily go to the "stocks/NSE" section then google "NSE 20-Share Index"
rank each stock in the list from your search according to the value of the PE column the lowest PE gets a value of 1 and so on then look at the Dividend yield column rank each stock from the Index with the stock with the highest value getting a rank of one and so on,
give each of the stocks a score by adding up the ranks the stocks with the lowest ten values are the ones to invest in,distribute your 100k among them in whatever way you like.The 65k buy KCB shares,they are the big boys of banking,the same industry that earned you a 1/4 million bonus how much you think they make?



How id it go @customer? I think DtheK gave you the best advise. Its been 3years now am sure many Wazuans would like to know how it all went down.
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Chaka
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2015 9:22:31 AM
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Did the story in post #28 take place?
chiaroscuro
#38 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:54:56 AM
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customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray



I wonder what you did with the money....
chiaroscuro
#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:56:26 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
customer wrote:
Any bright ideas on how to invest a 265,000/= 2011 Bonus I have received from my employer ?.

Regards.

Pray Pray Pray Pray



I wonder what you did with the money....


If you put the money in a plot, chances are that you've doubled your money now....
chiaroscuro
#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:01:54 AM
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DtheK wrote:
Forget mutual funds.Get yourself to the nearest CBK office or your bank and buy T bills worth 100k,
next buy a copy of business daily go to the "stocks/NSE" section then google "NSE 20-Share Index"
rank each stock in the list from your search according to the value of the PE column the lowest PE gets a value of 1 and so on then look at the Dividend yield column rank each stock from the Index with the stock with the highest value getting a rank of one and so on,
give each of the stocks a score by adding up the ranks the stocks with the lowest ten values are the ones to invest in,distribute your 100k among them in whatever way you like.The 65k buy KCB shares,they are the big boys of banking,the same industry that earned you a 1/4 million bonus how much you think they make?



For the last three years, several MMF unit trusts have returned higher that CBK T-Bills.

But you were right on KCB - it has appreciated 3-fold....better than most plots of land!
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