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HIV Cure now in sight
josiah33
#11 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:37:14 AM
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pariah wrote:
@josiah thanks for the link, it seems the article was from 4 years ago. do you know what came of the clinical trails? It is very interesting, I am no expert but seems too good to be true for me

Am not sure about the clinical trials but this test might answer part of your questions- DCA inhibits breast cancer cell growth
josiah33
#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:31:34 PM
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and now cannabis is also a cancer cure.
StatMeister
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:39:27 AM
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Correct me if am wrong, the world has united in the past against whooping cough, small pox, measles...why not against AIDS or cancer or malaria?

Furthermore, even if you had cures for all known causes today, people would still die from new causes, and from these, pharms would make lots of patent money.

From this perspective, pharms are not in danger of profit erosion from such advances
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kingfisher
#14 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:48:50 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
Correct me if am wrong, the world has united in the past against whooping cough, small pox, measles...why not against AIDS or cancer or malaria?

Furthermore, even if you had cures for all known causes today, people would still die from new causes, and from these, pharms would make lots of patent money.

From this perspective, pharms are not in danger of profit erosion from such advances



@stateman...

whooping cough, small pox, measles are communicable diseases.... meaning that if they are not controlled they can infect and wipe out whole populations. nobody wants that, not even the pharmas.

But cancer, diabetes, HIV/AIDS are different in that they affect much smaller percentage of populations. So the pharma can play around with these unfortunate human beings and milk them dry as they watch them die. that is the sad truth.
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josiah33
#15 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:18:38 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
Correct me if am wrong, the world has united in the past against whooping cough, small pox, measles...why not against AIDS or cancer or malaria?

Furthermore, even if you had cures for all known causes today, people would still die from new causes, and from these, pharms would make lots of patent money.

From this perspective, pharms are not in danger of profit erosion from such advances



@stateman...

whooping cough, small pox, measles are communicable diseases.... meaning that if they are not controlled they can infect and wipe out whole populations. nobody wants that, not even the pharmas.

But cancer, diabetes, HIV/AIDS are different in that they affect much smaller percentage of populations. So the pharma can play around with these unfortunate human beings and milk them dry as they watch them die. that is the sad truth.

and no one, rich or poor would want a disease like ebola to be widespread because no one's willing to live in those protective gears and masks. It wouldn't be cool anyway.
youcan'tstopusnow
#16 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2011 8:47:00 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
Cures for these two conditions will always be availed as alternative medicine, with a lot of propaganda from the pharma/government agencies on how ineffective they are.

An interesting documentary: 'Healing Cancer From Inside Out'
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BGL
#17 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:14:10 PM
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Through personalized medicine, HIV infected people will be able to live their normal lives without ARVs.
Read how
http://www.news-medical....rograms-on-HIVAIDS.aspx
http://www.sangamo.com/pipeline/sb-728.html
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
murchr
#18 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 6:00:44 PM
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[quote=BGL]Through personalized medicine, HIV infected people will be able to live their normal lives without ARVs.
Read how
http://www.news-medical....rograms-on-HIVAIDS.aspx
http://www.sangamo.com/pipeline/sb-728.html[/quote]


How are our Kenyan scientists doing? Those who were featured on the DN sometime ago?
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BGL
#19 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 6:11:00 PM
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murchr wrote:
[quote=BGL]Through personalized medicine, HIV infected people will be able to live their normal lives without ARVs.
Read how
http://www.news-medical....rograms-on-HIVAIDS.aspx
http://www.sangamo.com/pipeline/sb-728.html[/quote]


How are our Kenyan scientists doing? Those who were featured on the DN sometime ago?


The problem is that we are fragmented and nobody knows what the other person is doing unless you meet at an international conference to present results.

I & others are deeply involved trying to profile the prevalence of which coreceptor (R5 and X4) the viruses are using to enter the cell. Development of resistance against all the virus targets is very easy.... skip medication or the virus mutates under drug pressure BUT human gene will not be pressured by the virus to mutate.
Remember in a patient, HIV is not clonal but exists as a quasi species. If only CCR5 exist then the patient can benefit but if CXCR4 then the patient is excluded. Also remember that all the other HIV therapies target the virus but this one targets the host (patient).
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
kenyanbeef
#20 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:05:39 PM
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BGL wrote:

The problem is that we are fragmented and nobody knows what the other person is doing unless you meet at an international conference to present results.

I & others are deeply involved trying to profile the prevalence of which coreceptor (R5 and X4) the viruses are using to enter the cell. Development of resistance against all the virus targets is very easy.... skip medication or the virus mutates under drug pressure BUT human genome will not be pressured by the virus to mutate.
Remember in a patient, HIV is not clonal but exists as a quasi species. If only CCR5 exist then the patient can benefit but if CXCR4 then the patient is excluded. Also remember that all the other HIV therapies target the virus but this one targets the host (patient).

d'oh! d'oh!
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