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Equity lending rate 25%
digitek1
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:06:08 PM
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banks in the race for super normal profits are fleecing kenyans raif raif
If uve checked most results and apart from the smallest ones, no bank borrows from cbk..most of their kes for onward lending comes from customer deposits for which they pay jack
while cbr is supposed to be signalling but its being used as n excuse..as ekwite rushes report 12 b

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#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:16:31 PM
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a lacuna has been created at the bottom of the pyramid..this is the time for another dti or mfi (muharata? sacco) to come in and pull a 90s equity on the multinachonol
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:21:50 PM

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With a 16.5% CBR rate we did expect an increase in bank rates of around 22%. Equity's 25% is enormous compared to SCB's 23% and CfC Stanbic's 20.25%...but then again, shouldn't they be increasing deposit rates as well smilejust a random thought!!! Let's watch how the analysts' expectations earnings changes when we factor this in.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:22:16 PM
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When CBK raised the CBR to 16.5 this was precisely what they wanted:banks hiking their rates to deter borrowing hence control liquidity in the market.

Equity has just done what the regulator wants,furthermore if you look at the spread when the CBR was at 5.65(I cant remember the exact rate but it was around 5%)equity was charging 15% thats a 9+% spread now its around 8.5% in away the bank has reduced its spread by 0.5%.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:27:10 PM
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my take is that the weakened shilling has pushed Kenya’s foreign debt above domestic borrowing, making it more difficult for Treasury to achieve its target of scaling down the level of loans sourced from the international market to 30 per cent.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:51:34 PM
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Equity Bank is not a charity...and neither is any other bank. These are businesses that are expected to meet client expectations profitably for their shareholders. The CBK's objective was to mop up cash from the economy, these rate hikes are an offshoot of that policy. CBK, although belatedly, is playing hard ball as it should. Banks have little choice in raising their rates.The third wave or rate increases is upon the economy and the signal is clear...it's a wrap for cheap credit.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:12:09 PM
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In the 27 discussions, I do not read anything about how this move will impact on Equity at NSE. Of course unless implied. Can anyone shed more light than heat?!
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:24:48 PM
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:00:28 PM
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Murenju wrote:
In the 27 discussions, I do not read anything about how this move will impact on Equity at NSE. Of course unless implied. Can anyone shed more light than heat?!


this is because most of the people who will feel this are the ones with loans. as for the stock market the share already has a beating. the interest rate will not dampen it but another reason
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:32:42 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
banks in the race for super normal profits are fleecing kenyans raif raif
If uve checked most results and apart from the smallest ones, no bank borrows from cbk..most of their kes for onward lending comes from customer deposits for which they pay jack
while cbr is supposed to be signalling but its being used as n excuse..as ekwite rushes report 12 b


if what u are saying is true then our good old professor must have gotten his degrees out of river road or he owns or has shares in a big bank and he is using the CBR excuse so his bank could pretend that the cost of fund is expensive and reap greatly from wanjiku by charging her insanely high interest rates on loans.
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:20:53 PM
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25%?? Can we say default? Where are these lenders supposed to come up with money to cover that interest considering high inflation, fuel prices, unemployment?
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:32:34 PM
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Assuming that you want to take a loan to invest in a business. Which are some of the businesses that can guarantee a return of more than 25%, to make a profit????
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:47:31 PM
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This s*it is all messed up!
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#34 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:52:11 AM
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GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
With a 16.5% CBR rate we did expect an increase in bank rates of around 22%. Equity's 25% is enormous compared to SCB's 23% and CfC Stanbic's 20.25%...but then again, shouldn't they be increasing deposit rates as well smilejust a random thought!!! Let's watch how the analysts' expectations earnings changes when we factor this in.



I know Equity rate is the effective lending rate. Genghis are yu sure the rates quoted for other banks are not there base rates. They would then load additional interest depending on your risk factor and type of credit.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:59:32 AM
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Pedro_Nasinyama wrote:
GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
With a 16.5% CBR rate we did expect an increase in bank rates of around 22%. Equity's 25% is enormous compared to SCB's 23% and CfC Stanbic's 20.25%...but then again, shouldn't they be increasing deposit rates as well smilejust a random thought!!! Let's watch how the analysts' expectations earnings changes when we factor this in.



I know Equity rate is the effective lending rate. Genghis are yu sure the rates quoted for other banks are not there base rates. They would then load additional interest depending on your risk factor and type of credit.


SCB and Cfc Stanbic new rates are base rates - their effective rates are definitely above Equity's 25%.
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#36 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 12:07:54 PM
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guru267 wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:


Then secondly, Dr Mwangi, was quoted in the press yesterday saying the way he will not increase his rates... This is very inconsistent with his Brand.

my two cents.


You must think equity is a charitable organization if you expect them to lend at 15% when the CBR is 16.5%...

Dr mwangi's statements did not factor in a rate hike..


My Bad.

But my logic is that very few banks actually fund their loan books from overnight borrowing. Therefore, there is no real reason ( other than Greed) for them to raise interest rates for now. Most banks will retain a 20% buffer on deposits.

Me sees this as a scheme to rip off Kenyans as the election fever kicks in.
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#37 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 4:23:03 PM
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guru267 wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:


Then secondly, Dr Mwangi, was quoted in the press yesterday saying the way he will not increase his rates... This is very inconsistent with his Brand.

my two cents.


You must think equity is a charitable organization if you expect them to lend at 15% when the CBR is 16.5%...

Dr mwangi's statements did not factor in a rate hike..


EBL the most expensive bank..
Equity Bank has become Kenya’s most expensive lender after the recent round of interest rates increments.

The cost of borrowing from the bank — which announced two days ago that it had increased its lending rate to 25 per cent — is partly enhanced by its charging of interest on the principle amount borrowed throughout the period of repayment as opposed to its rivals who charge interest on reducing balance.Sad

http://www.businessdaily.../-/676xu1z/-/index.html
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#38 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 4:37:26 PM
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Thiong'o wrote:
EBL the most expensive bank..
Equity Bank has become Kenya’s most expensive lender after the recent round of interest rates increments.

The cost of borrowing from the bank — which announced two days ago that it had increased its lending rate to 25 per cent — is partly enhanced by its charging of interest on the principle amount borrowed throughout the period of repayment as opposed to its rivals who charge interest on reducing balance.Sad

http://www.businessdaily.../-/676xu1z/-/index.html


And yet they are still growing their loan book at the fastest rate in kenya.. smile
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astute
#39 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 6:25:05 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
EBL the most expensive bank..
Equity Bank has become Kenya’s most expensive lender after the recent round of interest rates increments.

The cost of borrowing from the bank — which announced two days ago that it had increased its lending rate to 25 per cent — is partly enhanced by its charging of interest on the principle amount borrowed throughout the period of repayment as opposed to its rivals who charge interest on reducing balance.Sad

http://www.businessdaily.../-/676xu1z/-/index.html


And yet they are still growing their loan book at the fastest rate in kenya.. smile



Lets wait and see, Kenyans are aware: They are officially the most expensive lenders!! The loan book growth days are numbered.
mwekez@ji
#40 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 6:27:02 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
EBL the most expensive bank..
Equity Bank has become Kenya’s most expensive lender after the recent round of interest rates increments.

The cost of borrowing from the bank — which announced two days ago that it had increased its lending rate to 25 per cent — is partly enhanced by its charging of interest on the principle amount borrowed throughout the period of repayment as opposed to its rivals who charge interest on reducing balance.Sad

http://www.businessdaily.../-/676xu1z/-/index.html


And yet they are still growing their loan book at the fastest rate in kenya.. smile


25% flat rate translates to 43.34% reducing balance rate. Members are seriously exploited
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