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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Abject poverty. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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simonkabz wrote:Abject poverty. And how are folks from Gujarat and Maharashtra doing in KE and TZ? Have they been cast into a low caste? Best, Hill
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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@Jason, nope. They are balling out of control.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Dash wrote:@Jason, nope. They are balling out of control. How is this possible? Seriously... let's talk about it. How is this "imbalance" in economic opportunity possible with a "home-field" advantage? Please help me understand. See, I'm in the US, so I understand why Acata has such a disproportionately small piece of the pie. But please explain how this came about in East Africa. Best, Hill
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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jasonhill wrote:Dash wrote:@Jason, nope. They are balling out of control. How is this possible? Seriously... let's talk about it. How is this "imbalance" in economic opportunity possible with a "home-field" advantage? Please help me understand. See, I'm in the US, so I understand why Acata has such a disproportionately small piece of the pie. But please explain how this came about in East Africa. Best, Hill Different circumstances ama you expect them to be treated the same way??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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I just want to understand how someone looses home-field advantage. I never hear this talked about as an issue.
If they are balling out of control, how did this come about in Kenya specifically?
Best,
Hill
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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jasonhill wrote:I never hear this talked about as an issue. Let the people decide once tried and learnt a lesson Quote:
If they are balling out of control, how did this come about in Kenya specifically?
Because kenyans love all things foreign?? or ask mapambano What does @sunnywords have to say abt this siddis I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Love all things foreign? So then how will vision 2030 be reached with the overwhelming love or all things foreign, which equates to a hate, or at least an indifference to all things Kenyan? Kenya must become a net exporter, where money that is made in Kenya is reinvested in Kenya by those who's alliance and allegiance is with Kenya.
Do you know that there has never been a Black African team that has won the world cup. Or even placed 2nd. Or 3rd for that matter.
Do you know why that is?
Is it a lack of...
Training (education)? No.
Resources? No.
Capability? No.
Physical stamina and dexterity? Goodness no.
It's because the rest of the world, somehow, keeps convincing Africa that this game that we play isn't a competitive, winner-takes-all team sport that we are playing. That we can "support multiple teams". So everyone kicks us around, and then tells us "Smile! We're all on the same team!"
So we act as a large bunch of independent, non-team kickers. We in-fight about tribe and religion. We don't realize that if we Black Africans don't win as a team, NONE of us win. We are all too happy to join any random team that throws us a ball and a smile, not realizing that if they let you in the locker room, you'll be the one cleaning it. And we try to force the mantras, plans, playbook, and team structure of other teams on our own; it will never fit to our benefit. But other teams- they expect free reign and the best tables in not just theirs, but in OUR facilities.
It's all just a friendly game of football I suppose.
Best,
Hill
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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Yes Kenyans do love all things foreign. I cannot speak for other African countries because I don't know their culture. A perfect example is not eating our traditional (and very delicious) mbogas instead of opting for foreign (look at the KFC hulabaloo, give me a kienyeji anytime). Go to the coast and compare how you are treated before and after a mzungu walks into a shop. Or go to the many food courts or hotels in Nrb and see how the next Indian will be treated because it is assumed they will spend more than you as an African will.
Personally, I only just started appreciating my African and Kenyan roots. Embracing my culture by what I eat, how I name and teach my children na kadhalika. Not that evrything foreign is bad, but as Africans I thinks its time we stopped shunning our culture and ourselves and have a healthy balance.
The Indians themselves despite being here for centuries are still very much entrenched in their culture and beliefs. So I think the reason the siddi have been fully "accepted" is because they never really were part of that culture
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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Dash wrote:Yes Kenyans do love all things foreign. I cannot speak for other African countries because I don't know their culture. A perfect example is not eating our traditional (and very delicious) mbogas instead of opting for foreign (look at the KFC hulabaloo, give me a kienyeji anytime). Go to the coast and compare how you are treated before and after a mzungu walks into a shop. Or go to the many food courts or hotels in Nrb and see how the next Indian will be treated because it is assumed they will spend more than you as an African will.
Personally, I only just started appreciating my African and Kenyan roots. Embracing my culture by what I eat, how I name and teach my children na kadhalika. Not that evrything foreign is bad, but as Africans I thinks its time we stopped shunning our culture and ourselves and have a healthy balance.
The Indians themselves despite being here for centuries are still very much entrenched in their culture and beliefs. So I think the reason the siddi have been fully "accepted" is because they never really were part of that culture Or dropping Kenyan names for a full foreign identity like Jason Hill!
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