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#21 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 10:21:14 AM
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I see there are still some KANU operatives who still wish Prof E******i was still there to completely f**k*p KU.
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#22 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:38:19 AM
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Being a great leader and being popular is not always the same thing. As a leader, you must have the foresight to do things whose value the masses may not initially grasp and will only appreciate after several decades e.g. Professor Wangari Muta Maathai

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#23 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:44:50 AM
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what about the last post on yesterday, friday daily nation by watchman?
and is it corrrect that most of those behind the K.U projects are ADD alumni?
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#24 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 9:11:47 AM
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kyt wrote:
mugenda is just pure *hit, now KU is the most crowded university in Kenya. the university has gone down in ranking since to took helm and she just seems on focusing on buildings i don't like this woman kabisa

rryz wrote:
Of what benefit are the beautiful buildings if the institutions ranking is heading south??

Agreed!!! In terms of infrastructure she has really done wonders. I recently went there to meet someone at their conference center and was amazed at the developments since I last visited the University years ago. I actually got a bit lost.

But in terms of academics, I think the university is bure kabisa! I understand there are classes of up to 500 students! I have heard of classes of up to 200 students being taught Java programming by a lecturer using a microphone!!! Some students can hardly see the board let alone what is being written on it! How does such a lecturer supervise and mark the CATs? You can bet the CATs are short, there is massive cheating, some CATs are probably never marked etc.

The university also had most of their Engineering courses rejected by the Engineers board a few months ago. Some of the courses were too shallow. What should be a single Engineering course is split into four different courses - not detailed enough even for a technicians course. Some of the (proposed) departments didn't have even a single qualified Engineer while some didn't have even a single lecturer trained in the area of specialization.
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#25 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:15:37 AM
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minima wrote:
[quote=rryz]Of what benefit are the beautiful buildings if the institutions ranking is heading south??


Which rankings? Webometrics ?

http://www.webometrics.info/[/quote]

How can we pat ourselves in the back when we can only manage position 4,803? There is nought to be proud about.
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#26 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:30:22 AM
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No matter what good you do critics will always be there.truth is mrs.mugenda has tranformed KU to a world class institution,prof eshiwani and everett standa could not achieve this.
MaichBlack
#27 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:06:20 PM
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Cardinal wrote:
No matter what good you do critics will always be there.truth is mrs.mugenda has tranformed KU to a world class institution,prof eshiwani and everett standa could not achieve this.

Prof. Mugenda has done far much better than Prof. Eshiwani and Standa combined. That's a fact!

But there is a good reason why there should be leadership change in every organization after a period of time. The good prof. has concentrated on physical infrastructure while ignoring the academic side of things. Now KU needs an academician/scholar who will concentrate on content, delivery, quality, research programs etc.

KU a world class institution? Based on what? Buildings? Let's get real!

And for those quoting the rankings (positive or negative), you should know that they are not reliable at all. Institutions are not visited neither the quality of their graduates considered. The ranking is done based purely on the content of the university's site. If you have departments full of professors, your graduates are some of the best, you have numerous completed and ongoing research etc., you will appear nowhere on the rankings if these information is not captured in your site. On the other hand, a university that manages to play the web while still being bure kabisa on the ground goes up in ranking. I stand to be collected.
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#28 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:58:35 PM
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Now KU is not alone in cramming 800students in a lecture hall. The UoN where I was a student is also a culprit. Students sit even on stairs in lecture halls.
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#29 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:11:41 PM
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She has done well no doubt. I dnt expect her to excel in everything though, typical of a human being. 'Mùndù ùmwe ti mbogo'
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#30 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 3:02:59 PM
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YesuWangu wrote:
minima wrote:
[quote=rryz]Of what benefit are the beautiful buildings if the institutions ranking is heading south??


Which rankings? Webometrics ?

http://www.webometrics.info/[/quote]

How can we pat ourselves in the back when we can only manage position 4,803? There is nought to be proud about.



Agreed, nothing to be proud with this rank. But then again, this is only the online presence , ie the content on the KU website.

And by the way, this the best so far by KU. They were 9000+ in 2009.
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#31 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 4:05:18 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Now KU is not alone in cramming 800students in a lecture hall. The UoN where I was a student is also a culprit. Students sit even on stairs in lecture halls.

What work does Commission for Higher Education (CHE) do? Such kind of stuff should not be allowed to happen. CHE should specify maximum class sizes. That would be one of the easiest rules to enforce. A practical-based class should have between 30 and 45 students. A theory class 40 to 65 max. The fee they charge (Approx. 80k per student - parallel) is more than enough to sustain such classes and turn out a handsome profit! As for JAB students, they are admitted according to available resources - and they are not admitted in such huge numbers!

UON has also messed up it's name when it comes to MBA. Hundreds of students and absolutely no control - people hire under grads to do their CATs and assignments! The lecturer doesn't even know who is who! Most graduates can't even write a proper research paper. There are adverts all over for "assistance" with projects. Something needs to be urgently done.

I will not even start on the so called private universities!
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#32 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:50:28 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Now KU is not alone in cramming 800students in a lecture hall. The UoN where I was a student is also a culprit. Students sit even on stairs in lecture halls.

What work does Commission for Higher Education (CHE) do? Such kind of stuff should not be allowed to happen. CHE should specify maximum class sizes. That would be one of the easiest rules to enforce. A practical-based class should have between 30 and 45 students. A theory class 40 to 65 max. The fee they charge (Approx. 80k per student - parallel) is more than enough to sustain such classes and turn out a handsome profit! As for JAB students, they are admitted according to available resources - and they are not admitted in such huge numbers!

UON has also messed up it's name when it comes to MBA. Hundreds of students and absolutely no control - people hire under grads to do their CATs and assignments! The lecturer doesn't even know who is who! Most graduates can't even write a proper research paper. There are adverts all over for "assistance" with projects. Something needs to be urgently done.

I will not even start on the so called private universities!


Maybe for a graduate class.
I would advice parents to do due diligence before they can enroll their kids for degree courses particularly parallel courses. Some parallel courses are not even approved by JAB therefore JAB doesn't admit students for these courses (JAB requires universities to prove their capacity to handle courses before they can approve. So the universities opt to admit parallel students for the very courses. Gullible parents are paying through their noses for the very courses.
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#33 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:45:11 PM
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Just a different perspective, is KU today better than it was a decade ago under Eshiwani and the short tenure of Standa? The three Profs are obviously human beings and thrived in different fields
1. Eshiwani was content focused (quality) but never generated enough money to expand the institution; under him KU became experts in 2 fields, Teacher graduates and musical cultural fairs (the latter for obvious reasons - M01 factor?)
2. Standa was a great employer and emphathized with his employees esspecially the non teaching staff union, he did nothing to advance content or to expand programs BUT the staff loved him!
3. Mugenda took the reigns and boom! there was construction everywhere. Library expansion, new lecture theatres, new campuses (Ruiru, parklands,pwani etc etc), new programs et al.

Demand for quality education has grown over the decade, I reckon it's time to input some quality into the insitution by leveraging on the strengh of the 3 profs. Is there a vetting board for uni vice chancellors?
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:40:47 PM
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I have read with keen interest about Kenyatta University and the immediate former VC.
Kenyatta University from a goverment supported university to a self funded institution . All this was made possible by one lady Prof Mugenda. I don't know her personally but she has certainly left the institution better than she found it .
She may not be perfect , who is anyway?
I have hired many graduates from KU and they have not disappointed me. The likes of Nick Ladu Winston Ayaya and many more.
What is this crap that she has left behind a business not an educational institution. In Kenya you are dammed if you do and you are still dammed if you don't . Going to Harvard , MIT , Yale and the like you pay a fortune. Universities are not charity institutions. KU today is not running around with a begging bowl .
She leaves behind a very solid university with a fully fledged business innovation & incubation centre in liaison with Manu Chandaria. Running a hotel in North coast that was dead for years is great . Their students now have a place to go for internships not to mention the employment creation .
Well KU has produced serious people who are playing their part in this country and beyond . Let us give credit where due . Professor Mugenda has done very well.
To you the critic , self appointed fault finder , what have you achieved ? It is very easy to throw barbs at others from the comfort of your seat and keyboard ? If you really have time on your hands go help Uchumi & Mumias. KU is doing just fine.
Good Prof . All the best as you retire and as a good sign of Good Corporate Governance I am glad you declined the Ksh 100M send off . Take only what your final dues are and go in peace and be proud of what you have done.

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#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:07:44 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
[quote]I have read with keen interest about Kenyatta University and the immediate former VC.
Kenyatta University from a goverment supported university to a self funded institution . All this was made possible by one lady Prof Mugenda. I don't know her personally but she has certainly left the institution better than she found it .
She may not be perfect , who is anyway?
I have hired many graduates from KU and they have not disappointed me. The likes of Nick Ladu Winston Ayaya and many more.
What is this crap that she has left behind a business not an educational institution. In Kenya you are dammed if you do and you are still dammed if you don't . Going to Harvard , MIT , Yale and the like you pay a fortune. Universities are not charity institutions. KU today is not running around with a begging bowl .
She leaves behind a very solid university with a fully fledged business innovation & incubation centre in liaison with Manu Chandaria. Running a hotel in North coast that was dead for years is great . Their students now have a place to go for internships not to mention the employment creation .
Well KU has produced serious people who are playing their part in this country and beyond . Let us give credit where due . Professor Mugenda has done very well.
To you the critic , self appointed fault finder , what have you achieved ? It is very easy to throw barbs at others from the comfort of your seat and keyboard ? If you really have time on your hands go help Uchumi & Mumias. KU is doing just fine.
Good Prof . All the best as you retire and as a good sign of Good Corporate Governance I am glad you declined the Ksh 100M send off . Take only what your final dues are and go in peace and be proud of what you have done.

https://www.facebook.com...posts/10154034362312422[/quote]
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#36 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 4:20:26 PM
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Parliament has asked the National Treasury to immediately allocate Sh1.6 billion to Kenyatta University Hospital to trigger the release of undisbursed loan owed to the Chinese government to operationalise the training facility.

The House says Sh656,682,2017 is needed for dry run budget and Sh1,060,490,567 for the soft run of Kenyatta University Teaching and Referral Hospital considering that the facility has been lying idle and the university is currently facing financial constraints.

“The project implementation was to take five years from 2011 at a cost of Sh8.8 billion. Two years after the intended operational year (2016), it is still idle with an amount of Yuan 142,862,209 (Sh1.37 billion) undisbursed,” Ms Sabina Chege, who chairs the National Assembly’s Committee on Health said in a report.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 12:02:16 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
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Parliament has asked the National Treasury to immediately allocate Sh1.6 billion to Kenyatta University Hospital to trigger the release of undisbursed loan owed to the Chinese government to operationalise the training facility.

The House says Sh656,682,2017 is needed for dry run budget and Sh1,060,490,567 for the soft run of Kenyatta University Teaching and Referral Hospital considering that the facility has been lying idle and the university is currently facing financial constraints.

“The project implementation was to take five years from 2011 at a cost of Sh8.8 billion. Two years after the intended operational year (2016), it is still idle with an amount of Yuan 142,862,209 (Sh1.37 billion) undisbursed,” Ms Sabina Chege, who chairs the National Assembly’s Committee on Health said in a report.



This is pretty good new before all the bought equipment expires unused. It's going to assist Kenyans and Africa at large. let the money be released.
Mukiri
#38 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:24:53 AM
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When are they building their campus at the Coast? They own North Coast Beach Hotel and a sizable chunk of land opposite it

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#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:14:38 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
When are they building their campus at the Coast? They own North Coast Beach Hotel and a sizable chunk of land opposite it


Build with which money yet the university is insolvent.
The rapid building that was being done by Mugenda were avenues for getting kickbacks from contractors
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:40:12 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
When are they building their campus at the Coast? They own North Coast Beach Hotel and a sizable chunk of land opposite it


Build with which money yet the university is insolvent.
The rapid building that was being done by Mugenda were avenues for getting kickbacks from contractors

Don't know if the deal is still on but they were to exchange their prime but empty plot in Mombasa cbd with the building that housed uchumi, this was to offset the cost of the building then the balance would be covered by the rent they are currently paying a cool 2m for their current premises.
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