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Impunity
#21 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:51:53 PM
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@The Deal you are done,do you think this thing will touch 52 before July 2013???
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

the deal
#22 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:45:42 PM
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Impunity wrote:
@The Deal you are done,do you think this thing will touch 52 before July 2013???

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. i didnt buy the price i bought value...i cant predict the price...thats for the market to decide
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#23 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:38:48 PM
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Increase of dividend by 50% doesn't sound like someone about to a rights issue.
Aguytrying
#24 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:13:27 PM
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the deal wrote:
I got back in today at 42.25 this thing called Active light does miracles....Best move i think for the year for me...OoOoOoO.


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youcan'tstopusnow
#25 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:37:47 AM
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VVS, please school me on this
Wasn't the 2009/2010 financial year supposed to be worse for KQ in terms of gains on fuel derivatives?
Then how come their results show that they made fair value gains on fuel derivatives of 6 Billion in that year as opposed to 2010/2011's 30 million?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
chaliwong
#26 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:31:25 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Increase of dividend by 50% doesn't sound like someone about to a rights issue.


In my own thinking, if a company wants me to buy their rights in the coming year,they will definitely not disappoint me this year.

If I'm not satisfied with what they paid me this year as dividend,I might hold back on any further investment in the company and be contented with what I just currently hold hence ignore the rights.

So if KQ is going to do a rights issue then sahi ndiyo wanatukatia(Its the Art of seduction).
youcan'tstopusnow
#27 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:06:10 PM
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So rights issue it is www.businessdailyafrica....66/-/rp41cl/-/index.html
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sorovi
#28 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 12:49:48 AM
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and the govt says it will pick up its rights.. It might be a tight one but 23B lets see how it goes
Cde Monomotapa
#29 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 5:20:41 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

I must say I am impressed by this. GoK made a good & nationalistic call.
the deal
#30 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 6:10:23 AM
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GoK Set to Defend it's stake in KQ

A.580 Million new shares will have to be created at Sh40 each
B. Number of issued shares will rise to 1.1 Billion
C. A right in the ratio of 1.2 for every 1 held wilk be held

Read entire article here www.contrarianinvestingk...d-it-stake-in-kenya.html
Impunity
#31 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 8:08:52 AM
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the deal wrote:
GoK Set to Defend it's stake in KQ

A.580 Million new shares will have to be created at Sh40 each
B. Number of issued shares will rise to 1.1 Billion
C. A right in the ratio of 1.2 for every 1 held wilk be held

Read entire article here www.contrarianinvestingk...d-it-stake-in-kenya.html


DILUTION.
Those of us who are in today, jump out soon.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

trizher
#32 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 9:18:47 AM
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Impunity wrote:
the deal wrote:
GoK Set to Defend it's stake in KQ

A.580 Million new shares will have to be created at Sh40 each
B. Number of issued shares will rise to 1.1 Billion
C. A right in the ratio of 1.2 for every 1 held wilk be held

Read entire article here www.contrarianinvestingk...d-it-stake-in-kenya.html


DILUTION.
Those of us who are in today, jump out soon.


Applause Applause Applause Applause at least the govt is taking up her rights......we wont see a KPLC debacle.
M buying in leo.
...We do it for the $$$$!!
StatMeister
#33 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 9:22:49 AM
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the deal wrote:
GoK Set to Defend it's stake in KQ

A.580 Million new shares will have to be created at Sh40 each
B. Number of issued shares will rise to 1.1 Billion
C. A right in the ratio of 1.2 for every 1 held wilk be held

Read entire article here www.contrarianinvestingk...d-it-stake-in-kenya.html


@Deal, it would have to be rounded off numbers, like 1:1 or 1:2

A ratio of 1.2:1 will produce odd lots if your shares are not multiple of 500
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stocksmaster
#34 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 3:21:23 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
the deal wrote:
GoK Set to Defend it's stake in KQ

A.580 Million new shares will have to be created at Sh40 each
B. Number of issued shares will rise to 1.1 Billion
C. A right in the ratio of 1.2 for every 1 held wilk be held

Read entire article here www.contrarianinvestingk...d-it-stake-in-kenya.html


@Deal, it would have to be rounded off numbers, like 1:1 or 1:2

A ratio of 1.2:1 will produce odd lots if your shares are not multiple of 500


@ StatMeister: Thats correct, the rights issue will most probably avoid odd lots.

I have looked at the numbers and possible scenarios and have come up with the following scenario:
1. The government having set aside Ksh 5.5B in order to take up rights equivalent to its 23% shareholding in KQ means the rights will aim to raise about Ksh 23.9B (Kestrel Capital had put the figure at Ksh 22B ($ 250M)). From these two pieces of info, we can assume a target of between Ksh 22-24B. Treasury deputy director of economic affairs Henry Rotich was quoted as saying sitting out of the rights would dilute the GoK shareholding to below 10% (from current 23%). This shows the dilutional effect will be more than 130% for those who sit out.
2. The company currently has about 462M shares listed. At a price of 42, this adds up to capitalization of Ksh 19.4B. The rights will thus aim to raise more than the market capitalisation of KQ.
3. To raise say Ksh 23B, each current share will need to pay: Ksh 23B/0.462B = about Ksh 50.
4. Factoring in the need for shareholder incentive to pick up the rights, a more favourable ratio would be 1.5:1 thus a rights issue of 3 shares for every 2 shares held (3:2) through the creation of 700M new shares.
5. The rights shares could then be offered at a price of about Ksh 33 each (700m x 33 = Ksh 23.1B).
6. With the GoK already committing Ksh 5.5B and KLM almost certain to pick its rights worth about Ksh 6B, already Ksh 11.5B is assured (50% of rights target).
7. Opportunities similar to those during the KCB Rights offer will soon be available in KQ (To pick KQ shares at even cheaper prices than those currently prevailing).

Happy hunting

mlennyma
#35 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 3:50:45 PM
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Its my feeling that after books close this share will quickly slip to 33 where it was a month ago.
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mlennyma
#36 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 4:23:25 PM
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When is kq and safcom closing their books?
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the deal
#37 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 5:58:04 PM
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@SM thanks for your insights...theyre always wonderful..but this one can't be compared to KCB because dilution is over 100%...but yes i agree we will get the share cheaper i.e 20 -25 bob after the RI.
mlennyma
#38 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 8:40:05 PM
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Anyone to answer me?closing dates and payment safcom and kq?
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Gordon Gekko
#39 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 8:45:42 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Anyone to answer me?closing dates and payment safcom and kq?

Information available on this very site. I'll help on SAF. They close on 8th Sep and pay on 8th Dec.
lovely2010
#40 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 9:43:10 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
When is kq and safcom closing their books?


I think it will be easier to be checking @ www.nse.co.ke open view daily pricelist tab @ the bottom of the downloaded page you'll find all that info...
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