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I HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD SALARY- ADVICE ME ON INVESTMENTS OPTIONS
GITHUKUSM
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:36:52 PM
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Boy,the greatest risk is to risk nothing.Invest in something land,stocks etc.Time brings the difference in returns.By the time you are discovered by a "miner" and you find you can not save a penny you will have covered some financial distance.
bwenyenye
#22 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 8:43:59 AM
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@Mashaa,
To me, your first priority should be to find out who YOU are. Your persoanlity, fears, strngths. Once you KNOW yourself, you will then identify what opportunities are best suited to pursue. For example if your nature is beinf risk averse (and that is very ok) then there are plenty low risk ventures like bonds that you can do wihout landingyourself in hosi. If you are the high risk fellows and can handle pressure well, then even public transport is open for you. I hope you get the drift. You are rich but not wealthy yet. You need to exploit your opportunities to get there. But you Must understand yourself first! Best of luck on your journey.
I Think Therefore I Am
mashaa
#23 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 11:15:26 AM
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@ GithukuSM I totally agree with you. I am risk averse...and i guess am taking too much time to action.

mashaa
#24 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 11:21:36 AM
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@ Bwenyenye thanks. I must admit i skipped that bit about determining my personality. Its not a difficult exercise though. By nature, i fear taking big financial risks. I will have to do some reading on bonds. They might turn out to be a "secure" place to put my money. Land is one other option am looking at.
babyelephant
#25 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:35:54 PM
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@mashaa, save firstly 4 emergencies e.g job loss (..stocks, bills, a little in cash 100K). Mortgages...i feel u...ur biggest headache wen building ur own hse is finding the land, secure it 2day. Buy both 4 speculation and where u foresee urself building and living in. Dowry, car(s), wedding(s), masters,kids these will catch up with u so plan for them too with stocks, insurance schemes, land.
Lastly, sacrifice a small part of ur savings to start financing small businesses (farming, mpesa, taxi, car hire etc) that will teach u valuable lessons in running ur own business and in future provide a second income stream and security against job loss.
To benefit from the time value of money, you may have to do these in parallel, cheers!
Genghis Khan
#26 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:52:50 AM
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Think big... you don't & can never make too much. Even Moi/Buffet still wakes up in the morning and thinks of new ways to make more money, in the evening he still counts his money using an old calculator in his bedroom...

Kill your fears... you NEED to make as many mistakes as possible when you are in your younger years... the life lessons will serve you longer... you also have time to recover. Plus, if you ever hit the jackpot early in life... wonderful

Find something to believe in and it will drive you.
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
mashaa
#27 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:49:49 PM
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@ Babyelephant, Thanks. I have set aside 120K for emergencies in cash. I am still learning about stocks and will surely put something small there. In the meantime am actively looking into purchasing land for speculation mainly. Thanks for reminding me to plan a little for further education. I had almost overlooked that. I will steer clear of mortgages for now. I am still toying with starting a small business to give me that second stream of income. You aptly put it when you said i have to multitask. That is a skill i really need to refine.
mashaa
#28 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:57:50 PM
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Genghis Khan, that is inspirational. Thanks again. I have to deal with my fears. I am averse to risks and i fear mistakes. Surprisingly some of the most rewarding moments in my life have happened after taking major risks. I do not lack in ideas, what stops me is the fear of failure.
wanyuru
#29 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 2:08:23 PM
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how about bond market?...Guys making good money there
rupollet
#30 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:23:38 PM
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GITHUKUSM wrote:
Boy,the greatest risk is to risk nothing.Invest in something land,stocks etc.Time brings the difference in returns.By the time you are discovered by a "miner" and you find you can not save a penny you will have covered some financial distance.

Please buy a Land or a house.
Kwanini
#31 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:56:53 PM
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kaka, weka hela zote kwa ardhi, na utanikumbuka !
"For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
anika66
#32 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 5:41:35 PM
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mashaa wrote:
@ Babyelephant, Thanks. I have set aside 120K for emergencies in cash. I am still learning about stocks and will surely put something small there. In the meantime am actively looking into purchasing land for speculation mainly. Thanks for reminding me to plan a little for further education. I had almost overlooked that. I will steer clear of mortgages for now. I am still toying with starting a small business to give me that second stream of income. You aptly put it when you said i have to multitask. That is a skill i really need to refine.


The best solid financial advice for this new investor is to find out his financial position right now, he should do a swot on himself. Then he should ensure he has some money saved up for emergencies (equivalent to between 3 to 8 months living expense) and then he can start investing. The 120K he mentions may not be enough, he needs to up it. He can safe his emergency funds in TBills or Money market funds etc before hitting the investment highway. And he should educate himself on the various investment vehicles before begining. Good luch to him
Keeping it all in the family
sparkly
#33 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:31:28 PM
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mashaa wrote:
@ Bwenyenye thanks. I must admit i skipped that bit about determining my personality. Its not a difficult exercise though. By nature, i fear taking big financial risks. I will have to do some reading on bonds. They might turn out to be a "secure" place to put my money. Land is one other option am looking at.


on the contrary bonds are not risk free, some of the risks are:

1. Interest - interest rates may rise and reduce value of bond.

2. Default - a corporate bond issue may go bust with not enough assets to cover liabilities

3. Degradation - your bond could be degraded from investment to junk causing loss of value

4. liquidity - you want to sell but no one will buy

5. Sovereign risk for gov bonds - the Greece saga
Life is short. Live passionately.
craig
#34 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:01:38 PM
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@babyelphant..great answer. i concur, you might need to understand yourself, do some study on investments and start like yesterday.
craig
#35 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:04:45 PM
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by the way, every investment including bonds have risks. the best are government bonds, barring any major shocks..
kariuki m
#36 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:31:16 AM
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@Mashaa, I do hope by now you got if not searched for the info you had requested.
Thus if not Am a Financial adviser ..jmwangi@thewelmangroup.com. And we ie (Company) can be of your help
majay
#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:16:27 AM
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I would suggest that you buy land which you can resell later to get your own house.

the other option would be to start investing in your family's education(that is if you have kids)
all about Kenya in 2011
Mach G
#38 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:48:14 AM
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Draw a pyramid at the start

1. the top of the pyramid should be your emergency money that should be equivalent to 6-months of your monthly expenses. the emergency money should increase/decrease depending on the lifestyle that you choose and if you have a family

2. The second tier of the pyramid should be money equivalent in terms of bond and T-Bills low risk and can be easily coveted to cash. Here take advantage and put some money in a SACCO if your organization has one.

3. stocks and shares - determine how much you can afford to play with here - the risk increases at this tier

4. Land - think long term here, can't be easily converted to cash unless you dont want a good price

5. Then your house - only to be sold as a last resort or when moving addresses avoid mortgages for now.

My assumption is that you are still young and can divide up the salary into these categories but you may need to tweek it to fit your particular cicumstances

My two cents for what they are worth!!!
Kenyan Oracle
#39 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:10:50 AM
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@Mashaa I must commend you on your spending and saving culture. My 2cent opinion is: Save equivalent to 4-6 months of your montly expenses for an emergency. Next invest in Land/Real Estate; think in terms of buying land for speculation and or development. Since you are risk averse and want a second stream of income buy land in areas such as Thika, Kikuyu, Kitengela or Nakuru since they are faster development in those areas and land is reasonable and then put up rental houses or speculate. Killing two stones with one bird.

I would have said stocks and shares before real estate but as per most Gurus of Wazua started in Shares but ended up in real estate. So, why not start from there. Real Estate is King.

You might think shares but invest in Companies you have a knowledge in what they do. To paraphrase Warren Buffet: Invest in 3-4 companies where you understand their business. It should be easy to understand. If it's too technical, avoid it. Invest between this time & next year (since most shares are going at a discount) after that, it will be all smiles to the bank.

Also think in terms of investing in yourself. Invest in Education since it will increases your earning power, get a better job. etc etc. If the worse come to the worse, you can lose everything but nobody can take away your education.

If you have kid(s) take out an insurance policy for yourself to hedge them against the worst.

I recommend this Read: The Richest man in Babylon by George S Clason. Quite an eye opener & John Wiley & Sons -The Warren Buffet Portofolio - Mastering the Power of the Focus Investment Strategy

Happy Punting


You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
Cde Monomotapa
#40 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:36:16 AM
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GITHUKUSM wrote:
By the time you are discovered by a "miner" and you find you can not save a penny you will have covered some financial distance.

Take heed...
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