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mabrown
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:42:00 PM
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Im based in mombasa and in biznes.get in touch thru; bwadongo@yahoo.com

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marktplaatz
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:43:00 AM
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mukiha,

Ali Baba is correct. I have done an experiment with jeans. New US jeans cost as low as $20,depending on where you shop; the average price is $30-45. Mitumba jeans in those so called exhibition halls,some poor imitations,cost from Ksh4000 upwards. Compare and contrast. Prices for t-shirts/polos are even more laughable. Kenyans wear some of the most expensive cloths in the world. Somebody was bold enough to quote an 'imported' suit at Ksh18000,something one could get brand new retail at half that price or less.
Ali Baba
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:11:00 AM
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MKTPLZ,

I've been doing the experiment and comparing items in kenya's exhibition stalls,shops and supermarkets.Kenyan products are quite expensive considering they are sold in small quantities.Kenyans are being ripped off by this greedy businessmen.The only cheap thing in kenya is raw food like cabbages,collard greens,etc.


Ali Baba
Ric dees
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:38:00 PM
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This is very true about different prices here and elsewhere,case and point there were some sandals that were a hit in the UK over summer and were retailing for GBP 10,now we walked in into Mr Price with my wife only to find the same sandals retailing at KSH 4,500..surely!! and please save me the margins talk...

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Ali Baba
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:18:00 PM
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JARIBU,

I know you are getting ready to rip off kenyans by over-charging used clothes.Just pause abit and listen to your inner self.Do you still want to exploit people who are hungry,jobless,etc.Our GOOD LORD will reward you if you show compassion.Poor kenyans have been ripped-off for more than fifty years by people who they trusted most....listen to yourself!


Ali Baba
Much Know
#16 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:40:00 AM
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Many of these second hand clothes are made in Kenya EPZ's,shipped to the west and returned here second hand,so to some degree we are doing the job of shonaring nguo,otherwise the economics of second hand goods in the third world is very complex, it is not straight away a negative in many ways,a proper analysis would qualify for a Doctorate.

Now Jaribu,you may have the money to venture into some business,know how it works etc,but find that it is tightly controlled by a group of Mafia like women as i have often hard is the case with this business. That's when people get shot and others are left saying 'they shot him and they didn't take anything',just do your research.

I am a general consultant,specializing in all areas.
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Ali Baba
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:14:00 AM
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MUCH KNOW

I think you know very little.You must be an imbecile moron.


Ali Baba
Much Know
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:54:00 AM
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Ali baba
I will not engage in a name calling contest or even call you the anal retentive fella you are,if you have an argument,give it out in mature prose and disqualify my assertions through logical discourse.

I am a general consultant,specializing in all areas.
Ras Kienyeji Man
mukiha
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07:00 AM
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@AliBaba & Marketplaaz.....

I am shocked...that anyone in their right mind would pay sh4,000 for a used pair of jeans or shoes!!!

With 4,000-bob,I will pick two pairs of brand new jeans and a pair of brand new pair of shoes [three items in all] at Enka-Rasha....and this is not the cheapest shop in town

Or if I like,a brand new suit....and if I go to Bunyala Market,I will get a findi to make two suits with the money!!!!

Anyone spending that kind of money on a pair of used jeans deserves to be ripped off...heck,if I were the trader,I'd charge them 8,000!!!!

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mukiha
#20 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:17:00 AM
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@RickDees,

Mr. Price is cheap for those regularly shop at Woolworths...same sandals at the latter would have been 7,000-bob

....but then again; GBP10 = sh1,200

...add freight+clearing+forwarding at 10% and you have sh1,320

...add import duty at 25% and you have sh1,650

...add excise duty at 15% and you have sh1,897.50

...add VAT at 16% and you have sh2,201.10

...add their mark-up at 100% and you get sh4,402.20

....round it UP to a round figure....sh4,500....

Of course that assumes they are purchasing from a retail outlet in the UK!!!!

Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow)
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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