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Potential merger NIC + CBA
NewMoney
#181 Posted : Monday, January 06, 2020 7:14:29 PM
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Balaa wrote:
Their (nic securities) online share trading platform has been screwed up since the merger. For example, it has not worked optimally since the two institutions merged. Management issues apologies continually and they are never short of excuses! So useless...


note that there was a new URL that was sent out (https://onlinetrading.ncbagroup.com/Tradeweb/login.aspx) and it works fine, no new issues on my side
Superprime1
#182 Posted : Monday, January 06, 2020 9:21:37 PM
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NewMoney wrote:
Balaa wrote:
Their (nic securities) online share trading platform has been screwed up since the merger. For example, it has not worked optimally since the two institutions merged. Management issues apologies continually and they are never short of excuses! So useless...


note that there was a new URL that was sent out (https://onlinetrading.ncbagroup.com/Tradeweb/login.aspx) and it works fine, no new issues on my side

They've made a weird tweak for mobile. It lacks depth and has lost some of the features seen via the desktop version. Terrible move.
Balaa
#183 Posted : Monday, January 06, 2020 9:52:01 PM
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NewMoney wrote:
Balaa wrote:
Their (nic securities) online share trading platform has been screwed up since the merger. For example, it has not worked optimally since the two institutions merged. Management issues apologies continually and they are never short of excuses! So useless...


note that there was a new URL that was sent out (https://onlinetrading.ncbagroup.com/Tradeweb/login.aspx) and it works fine, no new issues on my side

Thanks @NewMoney for the titbit. Will follow through with my so-called Wealth Manager (whom I hope to fire soonest).
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xtina
#184 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:23:39 PM
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Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
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The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.
sparkly
#185 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2020 12:49:38 AM
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xtina wrote:
Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
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The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.


Not much in way of dividends. Even the combined entity is on growth mode. Small shareholders are better off trading for capital gains.
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mwekez@ji
#186 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2020 8:11:30 AM
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sparkly wrote:
xtina wrote:
Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
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The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.


Not much in way of dividends. Even the combined entity is on growth mode. Small shareholders are better off trading for capital gains.


Indeed this is not a dividend stock but it will compensate with capital gains. Interestingly KCB is delivering on both fronts
Ericsson
#187 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:47:45 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
sparkly wrote:
xtina wrote:
Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
Facebook
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LinkedIn

The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.


Not much in way of dividends. Even the combined entity is on growth mode. Small shareholders are better off trading for capital gains.


Indeed this is not a dividend stock but it will compensate with capital gains. Interestingly KCB is delivering on both fronts


The Group MD has started complaining that the market is not favorable.
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watesh
#188 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:49:13 AM
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sparkly wrote:
xtina wrote:
Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn

The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.


Not much in way of dividends. Even the combined entity is on growth mode. Small shareholders are better off trading for capital gains.

I hope it stays below 30% or rather be at 20%. It will be delivering the same dividend yield as Equity Bank at current price plus be retaining more money for growth
maka
#189 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2020 6:13:12 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
sparkly wrote:
xtina wrote:
Drool Drool Drool what does this portend for small shareholders like us?

NCBA board to meet over dividend terms
Monday, January 6, 2020 23:26
President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta
Top: President Uhuru Kenyatta (left), his brother Muhoho and former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta. Bottom: Billionaire businessman Naushad Merali (left), NIC Chairman James Ndegwa (centre) and his brother Andrew Ndegwa. FILE PHOTOS | NMG
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn

The board of NCBA Group

will meet before March to decide the new dividends to pay shareholders, including the Kenyatta and Philip Ndegwa families who command the highest stakes.

NCBA is the product of the merger between the listed NIC Group and CBA Group. The two lenders had different dividend policies.

CBA, where the Kenyatta’s were significant shareholders, used to pay higher dividends relative to profits compared to NIC.

Now, the board of the merged banks is set to decide on a fresh dividend policy.

NCBA group Managing Director John Gachora told the Business Daily that the board will make the decision before March when the bank will issue its first consolidated results for the 2019 financial year.


“The board has not yet decided on a policy yet. We are having discussions as to what that should look like. It is true NIC policy was conservative,” said Mr Gachora.

Standard Investment Bank (SIB) analysts said they expect NCBA to increase its dividend payout hinged on higher efficiencies and reduced cost of funding.

SIB said the merger transaction had resulted in between 10 and 15 percent growth in earnings to NIC Group shareholders who swapped their stock during the deal.

“We see a slight increase in dividend payout — blended payout improves from 20 percent to about 25 percent in our estimate, with CBA being the catalyst for a higher payout,” said SIB.

However, Mr Gachora said the new payout policy will have to leave room for expansion plans within Kenya and beyond without having to raise capital in the short-term.

“Our new dividend policy will be one that allows us to make new investments to build capital. That is a decision that has to be made before we release end year results in March,” said Mr Gachora.

The Kenyattas have a 13.2 percent stake in NCBA while the family of the late Phillip Ndegwa owns 11.75 percent.

NIC paid a dividend of Sh1.25 per share totalling Sh880 million from the 2018 results when the lender’s profits grew to Sh4.22 billion from Sh4.14 billion in 2017. This means it paid 20.8 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.

CBA paid a dividend of Sh1.42 from 2017 despite the lender’s profits dropping to Sh5.54 billion from Sh6.7 billion in 2016. This means it paid 25.6 percent of its earnings to shareholders as dividends.


Not much in way of dividends. Even the combined entity is on growth mode. Small shareholders are better off trading for capital gains.


Indeed this is not a dividend stock but it will compensate with capital gains. Interestingly KCB is delivering on both fronts


The Group MD has started complaining that the market is not favorable.


Whiner that one....
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VituVingiSana
#190 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:58:57 AM
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Another defaulter https://www.businessdail...684-10j6im0z/index.html but the good news is there's progress in making a recovery.
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