my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw.

We have an example of Moses Dola. Katitu...rem him? You are turning out to be a mythologist @maka where did you drop the wakili hat?

section 206 (d) provides for one of the circumstances that constitute malice aforethought and not murder. malice aforethought is just another prerequisite of murder and not the only one. it does not oust mens rea and actus reus.

Jowie and Jacque will be nailed down badly. In the initial investigations, they threatened DCI who were taking down their statements, that they would loose their jobs. The cops had to wait for Kinoti to return from Germany to give instructions for them to proceed. They felt connected to who's who and untouchable. I wish Jacque cooperated from the beginning. Its hard small for her now. Jowie can Rot in hell

Nothing saddens me more than when parents keep on providing excuses for their grown up wayward children or a spouse providing excuses for the crimes of their partners in the name of love
Love my foot. ..I thought love was kindness not crime
If your children or spouse commit petty crimes, why not report them to authorities. .otherwise their petty crimes soon graduate to hardcore crimes in their believe that they are always protected/covered
In no time God forbid,and more often than not, they turn on their protectors and so we see headlines of spouses killings each other, children killing their parents and then we wonder where is the world heading to. ..
You shall choose how you bring up your children. ..
You shall choose who is going to be your partners. ..
You shall choose whether to continue livin
with your current partners. .
Remember whatsoever is your decision,
You must lay on the bed you chose. .No excuses please. .

All said and done.. A good parent, especially the mother would have a clue on whether his/her child could actually tie someone up and slit the throat.. At least I am certain that I would never do such a thing and my parents know it

Indeed it's wrong to be indifferent to both the deceased or accused

@tycho surely you need to get serious.. are you saying that you can murder a person in cold blood.. that there's a gene that can drive you to do such

@Liv

Sema doctrinal error in YOUR opinion. I see no doctrinal "error" or contradiction there. Remember numerous Scriptures talk about most believers being preordained and predestined and chosen before the foundation of the world. However in His mercy and wisdom those who may not have been chosen from day 1 are never turned away if they humble themselves, deny self and believe (John 6:37). So it appears there is a dual-path to Christ. The pre-ordained (some would call it the Calvinist) path, and the "free will" path you allude to. Proverbs 22:6 is an iron clad guarantee that if a child is not on the pre-ordained path, they can be trained to be on the free-will path to redemption in Christ.

Your understanding of what "free will" is might be where you go wrong IMHO. The earth and the universe are the Lord's and He is Sovereign over them all (Psalm 24:1) and on judgment day, as you know, every knee shall bow and confess His name, believers or not! Free will under His dominion does not mean everybody is entitled to do what they want whenever they want - ask Satan! It is not a right or an entitlement, except when viewed through a flawed earthly lens. It is a simply an availability of a choice to rebel against God, something all have done since Adam (Rom 3:23). That limited "right" He gave --even in heaven--- to Satan, who chose it gleefully and is now suffering the eternal consequences thereof.

So when a child who may not have been pre-ordained is trained to humble themselves before the Lord and believe, this is good and right and honourable in God's eyes, because He is sovereign over all; even over Satan as the book of Job proves, and the outcome of said training done correctly by real believers (not fake ones) is as good as cast in stone.

But of course to those who do not believe in Him and His sure Word, like Satan before them, they will find this "impossible" or wrong and dictatorial and their "free will" to rebel against Him is a "right" that will not be denied to them Shalom.

Pray tell me, is this what I hear true?

I am not one to gossip but I am shook...This was told to a group of us at some relaxation spot...One of the accused is seeing things and talking to people who are not there...Me thinks it is a strategy to get out of this mess...If someone did the crime they need to do the time..

Like I noted earlier this saga cannot get any stranger...However the bearer of this moshene is sometimes too dramatic and exaggerates stufff...Sometimes His moshene is 90% true...Seep this tea with caution...

As a parent ...I pray for my kids it is a cruel,deceitful and dangerous world...Hug my kids a lot more these days...