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What was your worst mistake in trading.
obiero
#181 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:09:11 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:
dunkang wrote:
subaru wrote:
obiero wrote:
selling KQ tomorrow at KES 5.30 while I know it shall head to KES 24 or more by mid next year. prior to that selling scom at KES 4.5 a few years back and seeing it close at KES 16 today. that was a major goof


Enyewe sold scom at 3 bob still hurting todate

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Courtesy of @Hisa and @mwekezaji pessimism. Can't imagine safaricom at 4bob. Those guys always see stocks prices going downwards, year in year out, using their charts, tables and graphs.

especially @hisah.. i never read his posts when it touches on my portfolio


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On this blessed Sunday as you count losses, remember that you are not alone in the devastating 2015 bear slide
1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss
2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss
3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss
4. Eight investors loose USD 166m at the NSE

It would be so unfair if I also do not bare it a little. Dsl. Imagine. Sitting down to weather a stocks down turn and all you got to do is do calculations of moves and you can not do anything other than be a student of muandiwambeu's xyz Co. Ltd. That's how I emerged out of 2011 bear run. I really took so many chill pills and cold tuskers. I do blame myself because the signs where real but I acted late. Sold cmc at 20 from 11 and bugged my profit but not cash. At the date of placing order I heard a lady complain that a bank xxx was not honoring Dsl cheques. My heart skipped a beat. Not sure what to do I left for my weekend to plan my strategy. After further analysis, I realized so many of my holding counters were in sale position. So the plan was ready sell all my holdings and cash out of Dsl. Come the following week the market was in a hell of a slide. None of my sale went through despite having been on best salling price range. Revised prices down by 15% and sale failed altogether- that's called a bear run. Then the annoying news came knocking. What! Statutory management ASAP. No more selling no cashing out. Imagine a section of my fellow citizens would quarter me on site if I missed a step into their pockets ever again. I got a financial divorce faster faster for messing up someone's cash on casino like investment and chilling on their chums. Lessons were plenty. Never tried to figure out the numbers lost cause I would never touch a stock again. To that I still own a chuck of Mumias shares so transfered to ksl that will always keep me cautioned. Liar nose so ya faint hearted.

Amen brother. Confession is good for the soul. We cannot have the NSE index drift from 5,015 to 3,990 in twelve months and people chest thump here that they have no loss position in their counters. Wanafik.. We shall live to invest in better times. For now, we strategise :)

jerry
#182 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:41:22 AM
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@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
obiero
#183 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 11:25:10 AM
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jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

Aguytrying
#184 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 11:32:22 AM
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@Obiero. Believe it or not my portfolio is in the green this year. The stocks I hold- TPS, KK, BAMB have have not dropped that much compared to the beginning of the year, BAMB intact is higher.This is because their prices were already depressed even when the bear struck. Add dividends( which I reinvest every last cent) and interest from bonds I'm profitable this year.around 6%. Despite NSE being 22% down.
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obiero
#185 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 11:40:16 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@Obiero. Believe it or not my portfolio is in the green this year. The stocks I hold- TPS, KK, BAMB have have not dropped that much compared to the beginning of the year, BAMB intact is higher.This is because their prices were already depressed even when the bear struck. Add dividends( which I reinvest every last cent) and interest from bonds I'm profitable this year.around 6%. Despite NSE being 22% down.

Good for you bro. So u compare beginning of the year to current market value, or your initial buy price

muandiwambeu
#186 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:03:59 PM
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obiero wrote:
jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

That was then. I said lessons were plenty.
1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is.
2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega
3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy.
4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then.
Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
sparkly
#187 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:56:09 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

That was then. I said lessons were plenty.
1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is.
2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega
3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy.
4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then.
Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later.

Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software d'oh!
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kryptonite
#188 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 1:10:52 PM
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Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

That was then. I said lessons were plenty.
1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is.
2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega
3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy.
4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then.
Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later.

Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software d'oh!


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Swenani
#189 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:50:16 PM
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kryptonite wrote:
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

That was then. I said lessons were plenty.
1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is.
2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega
3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy.
4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then.
Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later.

Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software d'oh!


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obiero
#190 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:22:37 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,223
Location: nairobi
Swenani wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
jerry wrote:
@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares.

Makes some sense

That was then. I said lessons were plenty.
1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is.
2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega
3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy.
4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then.
Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later.

Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software d'oh!


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