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Konza city Reality.
murchr
#181 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:31:33 PM
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alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
This is still not a city


if you can't trust Kenyan architects who've proven they can actually build houses, then how do you trust the IT guys who just say they can?



Follow the argument. My argument is that no Kenyan architect has proven to have planned a city...i stand to be corrected. As for your argument, i think you live in mars. Ask yourself why all technology companies are eyeing Kenya as an investment location.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#182 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:36:58 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
An extract from an article in the Daily Nation.

Quote:
"According to the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Information, Dr Bitange Ndemo, local BPOs are heavily challenged, mainly due to lack of developed facilities and space.....

Mr Kukubo admits that Kenyan companies have had challenges on capacity, which has meant that some of the projects that require high level technical capability have gone elsewhere.

“The Kenyan market did not have the talent that is needed to spur such a fast growth. That is why we moved to launch a Centre of Excellence to bridge the gap,” says Mr Kukubo. The achievements of the said centre are yet to be made public.


Last year, the board partnered with IBM to conduct a study aimed at reviewing the status and availability of high-end ICT talent and to propose a framework to address the talent gap in both the short and the long term on a sustainable basis.


With the challenge of capacity, the board shifted its focus to attracting more international companies, hoping that they would transfer skills to local counterparts, in the process of executing their projects.


Late last year, the board awarded a $32 million contract to Dimension Data, an international firm, for Internet Protocol telephony project interconnecting all government ministries.


Some projects have gone to local companies but not in the magnitude of contracts given to international firms....


Research on the status of the BPO sector and its contribution to the GDP in India, South Africa, Ghana and Mauritius convinced several people in Kenya to set up companies.

But the expected growth of these companies took a different turn on the backdrop of stringent competition from international firms, which have accumulated experience and know-how.


For instance, after establishing its regional office in Nairobi, IBM has bagged contracts with local banks to set up and maintain their data centre infrastructure.

For IBM, its focus on the finance sector has led to more than $200 million in contracts from banks and governments in Kenya, Cameroon, Ethiopia and Senegal, among others. Their focus on solutions and ability to handle rising consumer demand has endeared them to high spending IT sectors
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This is what we mean when we say that we are climbing the tree from the top, and it will not work if we continue to do it that way. In the case that it works, it will not be for our own good.

I have no idea who is advising Bitange on this one, he is either being misled intentionally by some "consultants" or the team lacks better judgement on the matter.

My humble opinion still remains valid



You SADLY missed the gist of the whole argument
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alma
#183 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:53:44 PM
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murchr wrote:
alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
This is still not a city


if you can't trust Kenyan architects who've proven they can actually build houses, then how do you trust the IT guys who just say they can?



Follow the argument. My argument is that no Kenyan architect has proven to have planned a city...i stand to be corrected. As for your argument, i think you live in mars. Ask yourself why all technology companies are eyeing Kenya as an investment location.


I live in Nairobi thank you.

I will let you deal with the statistics of what you've just said. But with all honesty, if they've sent you to deal with the marketing of this thing, its no wonder they are short on deadlines and goals thus far. See you 2032.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
fantony
#184 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:39:08 AM
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Ric dees wrote:

I echo Konza will be and remain a real estate venture and nothing more.

Last year i was privy to attend the investors briefing in London and he told us all this "glossy" names have said they are going to set-up shop once this is done ie: Twitter,HP,Skype,IBM and many more, now my colleague (we were there in a business capacity) asked him 3 years ago Hong Kong came up with the same concept and again all this guys said they are going to set-up shop and you know what 3 years later non have, it's ended up being..you guessed right a real estate venture..how do i know this, well again our firm was involved in this and barely made money out of this.

So forgive me for being skeptic but i look at London's own Shoreditch roundabout UK's equivalent of Silicon roundabout 99.9% of ventures are all local start-ups and non of the glossy names, until we find local talent providing local solutions then we are doomed even before we start.

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fantony
#185 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:51:34 AM
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mkeiy wrote:
Going by the above, Dubai is a dream. That palm palace, a dream too. Simply, why not clear the air with 10 year bets. How did Vegas come up? I believe in New York people could gamble. Why go to Las Vegas? Simply convergence. If you are going to start making cars in modern day world, you need a place where you can get supplies. Human capital is just a cog on the big wheel. ICT is NOT ONLY about software development,it's MORE than that. Making phones is ICT. Making all manner of electronic chips is ICT. Making comps is ICT. Making servers is ICT. Making navigation consoles is ICT. BPO is ICT. To me,Konza will happen and not only as a real estate venture, but as a ICT hub also.



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eboomerang
#186 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:24:58 AM
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murchr wrote:

You SADLY missed the gist of the whole argument

I have not misunderstood the story by any chance, I'm not new to this project and the industry.

The challenges being explained in the article are rather straight forward for anyone who understands the dynamics of the so called ICT industry.

I can tell you for a fact that much much more contracts and revenues will continue to go to other large companies at the expense of home grown enterprises.

Once a contract is signed, the switching costs are too great to bear in large enterprise solutions, so you can as well accept that the local companies will be locked out of any good business opportunities for quite a while.
fantony
#187 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:48:07 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
With the info Konza Developers are using to advertise, there is no major difference betwen the Tatu city/Migaa/Thika Greens form of marketing-the main aim is to create alot of hype which in turn increases demand and hence price of land goes up. If this hapens for Konza, investors will look for better places e.g Upper Hill, Ngong road e.tc where land price is equally high and infrastructure already in place.
The best way Govt. should do is try the Kitengela EPZ route-create an 'EPZ' kind of atmosphere with leased land,zero taxes and add ICT attractive features e.g ICT University,cable internet, ICT Gadget Manufacturers just like they do in EPZ.
What i can see with the current marketing is a good and effective method to sell real estate whereby the only winner is the land owner.

i thought all these were in place... what is going on???
fantony
#188 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:50:25 AM
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jamplu
#189 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:50:30 AM
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alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
This is still not a city


if you can't trust Kenyan architects who've proven they can actually build houses, then how do you trust the IT guys who just say they can?



Follow the argument. My argument is that no Kenyan architect has proven to have planned a city...i stand to be corrected. As for your argument, i think you live in mars. Ask yourself why all technology companies are eyeing Kenya as an investment location.


I live in Nairobi thank you.

I will let you deal with the statistics of what you've just said. But with all honesty, if they've sent you to deal with the marketing of this thing, its no wonder they are short on deadlines and goals thus far. See you 2032.


@ALMA Which IT guyz? I'll ask you a simple question... What IT product have you created or what IT idea have you given. At least these boys and girls in the IT business have done their Apps however crappy you think they are. Or are you the type that just criticize and have no clue of what they are criticizing.
alma
#190 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:37:07 AM
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jamplu wrote:
alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma wrote:
murchr wrote:
This is still not a city


if you can't trust Kenyan architects who've proven they can actually build houses, then how do you trust the IT guys who just say they can?



Follow the argument. My argument is that no Kenyan architect has proven to have planned a city...i stand to be corrected. As for your argument, i think you live in mars. Ask yourself why all technology companies are eyeing Kenya as an investment location.


I live in Nairobi thank you.

I will let you deal with the statistics of what you've just said. But with all honesty, if they've sent you to deal with the marketing of this thing, its no wonder they are short on deadlines and goals thus far. See you 2032.


@ALMA Which IT guyz? I'll ask you a simple question... What IT product have you created or what IT idea have you given. At least these boys and girls in the IT business have done their Apps however crappy you think they are. Or are you the type that just criticize and have no clue of what they are criticizing.


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Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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