Ok...I accept. Bii Nabwire

Can we now move on to the solution please. What is the solution to this "problem"?

Since questions will remain unanswered at least lets wait patiently to be told the solutions.

As for QW, the only thing that can save this fellow is posting the word SCAM, recommending Access Kenya and abusing married women.

So Nabwire, what's the way forward?

This thread reminds me of the time that people used to say Moi was a devil worshipper because on the 20 bob coin, yeye anaangalia left na Kenyatta anaangalia right.

Before you shout "IGNORANT", would you do yourself some favor and backup your arguments with some "facts"? Shouting "ignorance" ain't a fact.
My point was, if being Godly is what you strive to achieve, stop wasting time looking for signs and symbols. Use that time seeking Him. He's more powerful than ANY symbol/sign ever designed or ever to be designed.
He's the Almighty, the All Powerful.
Spending time searching for signs/symbol could be misconstrued for lack of faith in your god.
Kwani hana nguvu juu ya ushetani?

On to the signs, they are many QW. If you were to know all of them, your life would be unlivable.
Just coz the signs/symbols have been used to worship the devil, doesn't mean the devil owns them. The devil "owns" them as afr as his followers are concerned.
You can only be a conscious follower, otherwise its just a sin. Like looking at a well endowed lady lustfully.
If to the Moslems the pig is a "cursed" animal, we can't have pork?
Do you know the fertility rite/Ankh?
The witch sign,as in how you signal phone call using your hand?
The Chinese Ying Yang?
Pentagram?
Arms raised?
Arm and hammer?
Beehive?
Bull?
Crescent?
Cube?
X sign?
2 lines?
Lightning sign?
Fist under chin?
Dragon?
Red and black?
Mirror,as in mirror image?
Swastika and the VW[Volkswagen] sign?
EU [European Union] and the Tower of Babel?
Sun [jua] and the Nissan car sign?
Oak leaves and Olive branches?
Dog?
Compass and a Square?
Etc etc etc etc.
Going by just a few, how many of the above signs are part of your everyday life?
Do you now consider yourself a devil worshiper?

If the above signs are a drop in the ocean of 'satanic' signs/symbols how many more out there are part of your everyday life? They are many, sooo freaking many.
Where does that leave you? You tell us, the "ignorant ones". We would really like to be enlightened.

Next time under stocks you talk of a "bull", now you know its "satanic".
Rem the bull they have in Wall Street? That's "satanic".

What do you suggest we call the next rally in the stocks market?
Billy? As in billy goat?

Bottom line, seek Lord your God and don't waste God given time chasing the devil, coz he[the devil] is everywhere in everything.
Its his world, God gave it to him to rule.
But your heart, your soul, is God's. Its His temple. Keep it clean for Him. The time you spend chasing devils sign,the Lord's temple gather dust.
Trust in Him,have faith in Him, the rest He'll take care of.
Don't cheat yourself knowing signs will help you beat the devil in this game, he's been around for over 6,000 years. What chance do you have?

The lyrics of ´maria maria´ are innocous, the video is clear with no obscure imagery. But what about the song?

....Some may have snickered when Carlos Santana, the psychedelic guitarist of the 70's, informed the public that an angel named Metatron had prophesied his return to pop dominance. After last night's 42nd Annual Grammy Awards at the Staples Center here, there are going to be a lot of young musicians praying to Metatron..... The first paragraph of the article.

......Although Santana maintained a core classic-rock audience that supported him on the road, it had been nearly two decades since his last radio hit. In interviews, Santana spoke of an angel, Metatron, who had told him that he was destined to spread the positive message of music to younger listeners through the radio...... 11th paragraph of the article.


The interview that is talked about in these 2 links is HERE

In this interview please notice in the 6th paragraphth assertion ¨Metatron, who has been mentioned in mystical disciplines through the ages, also appears as the eye inside the triangle¨. Also notice that he, in the third paragraph, also mentions Jesus as if by doing that he will make it alright for those suspicious. He basically talks about what or who inspires him when doing his music.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone....a-20000316#ixzz1tn5tAYjz

Now we know that the other side played a role in creating his music. His came out like that. What about the others' music? How have they come out?


So Nabwire is right when she in so many words mentions that artistes, even the Grammy award winners, do more than meet the eye especially those who seemingly get runaway success. Yes including, especially, the so called gospel artistes, preachers etc.

I am skeptical of those who bandy ´Jesus´ about. Those who tell you concentrate of God, let go let God, etc. I dont just accept them like they want to be accepted. I dont want to be lulled into a false sense of security. Because like Eve, you will not be overwhelmed with force or display of might but with cunning.

Alma is also right when she, like me, takes to task those who purport to do Godś work like preachers,Carlos Santana etc to out them. I am not sure if Nabwire or QW need outing. I dont know.

And those making jest of the supernatural, dont trouble trouble, let sleeping dogs lie....you know those idioms.... there is enough trouble on the way coming already.