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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
QW25071985
#341 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:55:18 PM
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Surely i cannot believe we are debating if kk will go sub 9 bob ex-div. Its a total waste of time. Lol.
I have my buy orders at sub nine bob. Period !
Aguytrying
#342 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:48:37 PM
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KK Sub 9 bob. It sounds impossible?! Really!? Unless you've been under a rock for the last 2 weeks. after the massacre we have witnessed, i'm suprised anyone could doubt this possibility. The only thing that could change this possibility is if the market as a whole recovers. I accepted this after the div was announced and nothing happened. I couldn't belive my eyes when i saw kplc at 17.00. No share is immune in this market. Ha ha. Hfck. 70 something percent increase in profits, did that stop it from losing over 15 percent. From 21.00-17. So i find it amusing how kk is not expected fall properly by some.
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hisah
#343 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:24:17 PM
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@QW & Aguy did u expect member to hit 20s from 30...

KPLC sub rights...

DTK @100 & pointing lower...

In a bear market, Mr. Market is controlled by buyers and ridiculous prices flash by recklessly Sad

Europe is still staggering. Caution...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
youcan'tstopusnow
#344 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:33:58 PM
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hisah wrote:
@QW & Aguy did u expect member to hit 20s from 30...

KPLC sub rights...

DTK @100 & pointing lower...

In a bear market, Mr. Market is controlled by buyers and ridiculous prices flash by recklessly Sad

Europe is still staggering. Caution...


Member always seemed to be valued way higher than other banks during 'the good times' Since those times are not with us any more, it will be treated like the rest.
KPLC at 17 was a surprise to me, I will admit

hisah & Aguytrying, so a 5% dividend yield is holding KK from a more than 20% fall?
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emmndi
#345 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:00:16 PM
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This thread is very informative for me especially for the wazua's that would love to learn about the nse!
Aguytrying
#346 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:12:40 PM
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@hisah. I certainly didn't think id see equity at lower than 23.00 before election fever kicked in. So 20.00 is a suprise. @youcant. Yes or thereabouts. I'm hoping this nssf chaps dont come in too soon to spoil the party.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#347 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:26:44 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@hisah. I certainly didn't think id see equity at lower than 23.00 before election fever kicked in. So 20.00 is a suprise. @youcant. Yes or thereabouts. I'm hoping this nssf chaps dont come in too soon to spoil the party.

Hehe. Maybe the chaps who will be given the NSSF stash will view KK as a huge bargain at 10smile
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Wendz
#348 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:27:47 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@hisah. I certainly didn't think id see equity at lower than 23.00 before election fever kicked in. So 20.00 is a suprise. @youcant. Yes or thereabouts. I'm hoping this nssf chaps dont come in too soon to spoil the party.

Hehe. Maybe the chaps who will be given the NSSF stash will view KK as a huge bargain at 10smile


Given the organisations fundamentals, i would still view KK as a bargain at 10 bob... but i am still expecting it to be lower ex-div... my broker called me yesterday asking if i want to put more money in KK but i am thinking i could get it cheaper so i am still holding any buy calls for this.... i could be wrong but with the current market, probability of being right is higher...
Aguytrying
#349 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:43:23 PM
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Unfortunately the market is on the up. I wonder how this will affect kk's fall. could be less pronounced, but im looking at the bigger picture ie, when the n.s.e will bleed properly. however if it gets to an acceptable range, ill get me more at a lower price.
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Cde Monomotapa
#350 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:35:03 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
Surely i cannot believe we are debating if kk will go sub 9 bob ex-div. Its a total waste of time. Lol.
I have my buy orders at sub nine bob. Period !

Laughing out loudly
hisah
#351 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:00:18 AM
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NSE closed 3540 yesterday as the bounce continues. However with Europe & US markets sliding big yesterday wiping this week's gains & Asia now continuing, I wonder if NSE will close higher than last Friday... The lack of volume on the various bluechips makes the bounce not convincing.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
QW25071985
#352 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:24:57 AM
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hisah wrote:
NSE closed 3540 yesterday as the bounce continues. However with Europe & US markets sliding big yesterday wiping this week's gains & Asia now continuing, I wonder if NSE will close higher than last Friday... The lack of volume on the various bluechips makes the bounce not convincing.


my thinking is that there are low volumes because people arent interested in low prices.thus no supply no demand. I am also shocked the bourse is rallying yet world markets are fallin.lol. Where is the sync between this two markets.
Cde Monomotapa
#353 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 9:05:45 AM
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Soon it will be firmly established whose GDP is growing and whose is shrinking. Choose your pick.
Aguytrying
#354 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 10:25:54 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/as...ecession-004752707.html

I think our market is slow to react. the current bounce is like the one experienced last week in the other markets. so wait for the n.s.e to follow the global ones with time
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Aguytrying
#355 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 11:22:51 AM
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Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#356 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 12:34:11 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.


Ive got my cash ready for the hevy selling of kenol kobil that will begin on 22nd August 2011.. Ill be buying like a psycho from then
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Aguytrying
#357 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 12:40:53 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.


Ive got my cash ready for the hevy selling of kenol kobil that will begin on 22nd August 2011.. Ill be buying like a psycho from then


Can you see the asks? at 11.20. heavy asks. total asks almost 1 million. the only thing holding them back.... cum dividend. think im gonna put ridiculously low bids and just wait.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
cnn
#358 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 12:59:47 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.


Ive got my cash ready for the hevy selling of kenol kobil that will begin on 22nd August 2011.. Ill be buying like a psycho from then


Can you see the asks? at 11.20. heavy asks. total asks almost 1 million. the only thing holding them back.... cum dividend. think im gonna put ridiculously low bids and just wait.

If your average buy is anywhere up to 10,and you have taken the two dividends this year(today's closure inclusive),why would you be worried?.Look at BAT ex-dividend lost only 5%.Until there is another market sell off to take us below 9,and when that happens top up.
Aguytrying
#359 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 1:18:40 PM
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cnn wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.


Ive got my cash ready for the hevy selling of kenol kobil that will begin on 22nd August 2011.. Ill be buying like a psycho from then


Can you see the asks? at 11.20. heavy asks. total asks almost 1 million. the only thing holding them back.... cum dividend. think im gonna put ridiculously low bids and just wait.

If your average buy is anywhere up to 10,and you have taken the two dividends this year(today's closure inclusive),why would you be worried?.Look at BAT ex-dividend lost only 5%.Until there is another market sell off to take us below 9,and when that happens top up.


I'm not worried, im excited. that i'll be soon getting (fingers crossed) a superb company on the cheap.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
erifloss
#360 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 1:39:09 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Wazua is very quiet nowadays. some people have simply gone MIA(missing in action)- i know you know. I now fear for kenol kobil. last day its cum dividend and look at the trades. tepid. Monday, i cant wait for Monday. International oil stocks in Asia took a beating today. Though i dont quite think their trend is tied to kk. coz kk is doing very well business wise. And oil prices are falling, the report as if its bad news.... maybe for them. Monday for you we await.

With the world markets all down. European markets nearing a 2 year low, DJ is just but another story, Europeans & Americans have got access to cheap debt & still don't want to invest or even take up some even sitting on tonnes of cash. For me 10% stop loss is enough instead of waiting till the market goes 30% in the red. With my cash in the money market i sleep well at night & recouping a minor loss will not be as hard thus retaining my capital & gains made last year. I guess guys are still waiting to really see a double dip recession in the global markets so as to scatter. When guys dump risky assets, you should always have your eyes wide open, both Nymex & Brent crude September prices went down too...I guess more will be MIA.
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