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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:Jon Jones wrote:hardwood wrote:I'd consider this a 'comfortable' lifestyle in that one can meet their needs in a good neighborhood in Nairobi. Family with 2 kids.
1. Rent 70k
2. food/shopping - 25k
3. car (loan+Insurance) 35k
4. fuel sh700*30days= 21k
5. lunch 250*20days = 5k
6. savings/sacco/NSE - 20k
7. school fees 2 kids at 80k per term each kid- 40k pm
8. entertainment 4 beers @250, 4 days a week - 20k
9. Medical - 10k
10. Relatives - 5k
11. Househelp - 10k
Total 261k
You need a net of 261K.
NB: Mpango will cost an extra 30k, so you will need 291k. Savings of 20k out of a 261k salary...rent of 70k, fuel of 21k, school fees of 40k per month,...that is living above your means in my opinion. Buying a guzzler when you cant afford to have one, living in estates you should not be in, and educating your children in schools you can barely afford. Typical middle class mindset I believe anyone should save/invest at least 30% of their income...at least. This is a perfect example of living from paycheck to paycheck. If you got fired today, your savings of 1 whole year cannot offset your expenses for one month. Are you from the lakeside region??  I will advise my friend to move from that apartment in kileleshwa arudi eastlands, where he belongs. It's a #Ratrace Rat raceRat Race is a term used to describe a frustrating, hard-to-break financial lifestyle. It is a lifestyle that is lived by countless people, oblivious to the very nature of it, to a degree that even when called upon, vehemently deny it. To summarize the Rat Race, it involves subjecting one's self to a time-consuming job, saddling one's self with heavy mortgages/rents, bills, children, and liabilities, forcing the individual to continue busting his or her ass at that same job. The illusion that working at the same job will be better bars off alternatives.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Of all the posts above....its evident that all men have one thing in common: they must have a mpango wa kando aka yelo yelo day scholar! But I will be realistic with you:
Rent: 45 - 60k (in Thome or Garden Estate, you will get stand alone bungalows and mansions at this price, with own gardens on a quarter or half an acre)
Family Expenses: 50k (Food, Shopping)
Education of kids: 50k per term upper middle class schools like Riara Springs where kids speak so flowery English better than akina Swenanis)
Booze and njaro: 25k assuming 2 crates every week where a beer costs 250/=
Mpango wa Kando: 20K student at USIU or KU, bedsitter 10k at Roysa, 10k shopping = unlimited supply of airport and landing permits!!
Fuel: 20k assuming you drive a 2500 - 3000cc guzzler
Parents at rural home: 15k monthly
Charity: educate at least one or two orphans 20k per month
TOTALS: 250K What? Rent in Thome is 170K as you can see <HERE>.Also, you have not included savings. Hio ni Thome ya TZ not KenyaWhy save when there is NSSF?  Hhahahahaha........Thome ya huku inaitwa Tabata!! Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Yaani hamtoi sadaka na fungu la kumi? Au nyinyi ni harmbuglar Mumia?
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Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Of all the posts above....its evident that all men have one thing in common: they must have a mpango wa kando aka yelo yelo day scholar! But I will be realistic with you:
Rent: 45 - 60k (in Thome or Garden Estate, you will get stand alone bungalows and mansions at this price, with own gardens on a quarter or half an acre)
Family Expenses: 50k (Food, Shopping)
Education of kids: 50k per term upper middle class schools like Riara Springs where kids speak so flowery English better than akina Swenanis)
Booze and njaro: 25k assuming 2 crates every week where a beer costs 250/=
Mpango wa Kando: 20K student at USIU or KU, bedsitter 10k at Roysa, 10k shopping = unlimited supply of airport and landing permits!!
Fuel: 20k assuming you drive a 2500 - 3000cc guzzler
Parents at rural home: 15k monthly
Charity: educate at least one or two orphans 20k per month
TOTALS: 250K What? Rent in Thome is 170K as you can see <HERE>.Also, you have not included savings. Hio ni Thome ya TZ not Kenya Why save when there is NSSF? malipo ya uzeeni
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Lolest! wrote:Yaani hamtoi sadaka na fungu la kumi? Au nyinyi ni harmbuglar Mumia? Don't make us feel guilty now Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2010 Posts: 625
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What's a good salary in Kenya? This question is loaded. It depends on the kind of lifestyle you prefer. I see that a lot of Kenyan men lack imagination and their idea of fun is either "drinking", "sensual seduction" ama "church". Actually this gets to the extreme in Ocha where the men can easily be divided into two camps "the church goers" and the "alcoholics". To avoid this trap which is a road that leads to nowhere it's important for a man to cultivate and enjoy other interests and do it passionately. Here's a few things you could take up that will rescue you from the "alcoholics" or "church" trap: which evidently shows a lack of education and sophistication as your income goes up.
1. Cooking: For a man to take a passion to cooking, you have to really take it to the extreme. You should be able to make things like "swiss chard and lemon ricotta pasta"
2. Travel: Not just to Ocha but to deep in Taveta Hills, Shompole, middle of nowhere kind of stuff. Go diving, riding camels, go to Kariandusi etc
3. Archaelogy: Easiest thing, create a comprehensive family tree and interview all the old people in your family and write a book to share with your family members. Do good profiles of your ancestors and such. If you go deep enough, start your own self taught archaelogy stuff in some random place in Kenya.
4. Chess: Build your game to championship level - become a Master
5. Sewing & Fashion: Go deep with this and challenge the designers out there.
6. Mentoring
7. Painting
8. Pick up a sport as you get older: whether it's golf, running, biking etc you need to break a sweat at least a few times a week.
9. Collecting - whether its stamps, old music, pictures from the 1950s and below do something.
10. Start an alternative night club - which doesn't necessary involve just drinking and watching sports on tv. Maybe a club where you can hang out play some badminton with your boss or something like that.
One of the reasons Nairobi gets dull is because people can't seem to imagine alternative paths.
If a man is going to get out of the trap he has to go very deep into some kind of passion which consumes the time and hopefully where he has some talent. The obvious pleasures such as drinking and church going do not provide the best returns. Be a contrarian and make the country more interesting. Always gathering for drinks with friends is a lack of imagination.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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hardwood wrote:I'd consider this a 'comfortable' lifestyle in that one can meet their needs in a good neighborhood in Nairobi. Family with 2 kids.
1. Rent 40k
2. food/shopping - 20k
3. car (loan+Insurance) 35k
4. fuel = 15k
5. lunch 250*20days = 5k
6. savings/sacco/NSE - 80k
7. school fees 2 kids at 40k per term each kid- 26k pm
8. entertainment 4 beers @250, 4 days a week - 20k
9. Medical - 10k
10. Relatives - 5k
11. Househelp - 8k
Total 264k
You need a net of 261K.
NB: Mpango will cost an extra 30k, so you will need 291k. With a net of 291k kes for those who are in diaspora not to get confused, i would change the above to; assumption: you have a wife if you are earning net of 291 otherwise....ya wanaume hupotelea kwingi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Of all the posts above....its evident that all men have one thing in common: they must have a mpango wa kando aka yelo yelo day scholar! But I will be realistic with you:
Rent: 45 - 60k (in Thome or Garden Estate, you will get stand alone bungalows and mansions at this price, with own gardens on a quarter or half an acre)
Family Expenses: 50k (Food, Shopping)
Education of kids: 50k per term upper middle class schools like Riara Springs where kids speak so flowery English better than akina Swenanis)
Booze and njaro: 25k assuming 2 crates every week where a beer costs 250/=
Mpango wa Kando: 20K student at USIU or KU, bedsitter 10k at Roysa, 10k shopping = unlimited supply of airport and landing permits!!
Fuel: 20k assuming you drive a 2500 - 3000cc guzzler
Parents at rural home: 15k monthly
Charity: educate at least one or two orphans 20k per month
TOTALS: 250K What? Rent in Thome is 170K as you can see <HERE>.Also, you have not included savings. Hio ni Thome ya TZ not KenyaWhy save when there is NSSF? Hhahahahaha........Thome ya huku inaitwa Tabata!! Mikocheni bwana! Tabata ni Kinoo! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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mv_ufanisi wrote:What's a good salary in Kenya? This question is loaded. It depends on the kind of lifestyle you prefer. I see that a lot of Kenyan men lack imagination and their idea of fun is either "drinking", "sensual seduction" ama "church". Actually this gets to the extreme in Ocha where the men can easily be divided into two camps "the church goers" and the "alcoholics". To avoid this trap which is a road that leads to nowhere it's important for a man to cultivate and enjoy other interests and do it passionately. Here's a few things you could take up that will rescue you from the "alcoholics" or "church" trap: which evidently shows a lack of education and sophistication as your income goes up.
1. Cooking: For a man to take a passion to cooking, you have to really take it to the extreme. You should be able to make things like "swiss chard and lemon ricotta pasta"
2. Travel: Not just to Ocha but to deep in Taveta Hills, Shompole, middle of nowhere kind of stuff. Go diving, riding camels, go to Kariandusi etc
3. Archaelogy: Easiest thing, create a comprehensive family tree and interview all the old people in your family and write a book to share with your family members. Do good profiles of your ancestors and such. If you go deep enough, start your own self taught archaelogy stuff in some random place in Kenya.
4. Chess: Build your game to championship level - become a Master
5. Sewing & Fashion: Go deep with this and challenge the designers out there.
6. Mentoring
7. Painting
8. Pick up a sport as you get older: whether it's golf, running, biking etc you need to break a sweat at least a few times a week.
9. Collecting - whether its stamps, old music, pictures from the 1950s and below do something.
10. Start an alternative night club - which doesn't necessary involve just drinking and watching sports on tv. Maybe a club where you can hang out play some badminton with your boss or something like that.
One of the reasons Nairobi gets dull is because people can't seem to imagine alternative paths.
If a man is going to get out of the trap he has to go very deep into some kind of passion which consumes the time and hopefully where he has some talent. The obvious pleasures such as drinking and church going do not provide the best returns. Be a contrarian and make the country more interesting. Always gathering for drinks with friends is a lack of imagination.
Tunaongelea mishahara sio hobbies If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Swenani wrote:repat wrote:After tume maliza all this 'move to diaspora vs. 'not move to diaspora'...can someone please answer the initial question in a detailed manner.
WHAT IS A 'GOOD SALARY IN KENYA?'
Please lets keep the " you need a million' comments to the minimum. We all know that is BS na hapa ni online hakuna haja ya kuringa. if youre making that, sawa. But please know that kuna wenye tuna tumia hii resource ku jipanga. Also zile za watu wana lipa rent ya 10k tu wache pia, (nothing against them, but that isnt a definiont of someone making a 'good' salary)
In 2016 numbers...whats a good salary for a man to be able to afford nairobi comfortably?
by comfortably I dont mean being able to afford 40k shots of louis 13 on the weekend.
But how much would one need in nairobi to live in a middle class area, be able to go out on weekends and drink a few K's bila ku stress sana,(even in Njanuary)
be able to afford a regular weekday baada ya kazi round of drinks while networking-also bila ku check ATM balance saa zote
Be able to take the ka yelo-yelo or two out hapa na pale bila shida
and maybe maintain a ka mpango on the side (we are men after all)
transportation,
chakula,
mboch,
kama nime sahau kitu nikumbushe please...As the name suggests, nina rudi kenya....Planning stages ndio niko. ive gathered a lot of info while im in kenya but I would like to get a little bit more insight from you guys.
What we would consider a middle class life style....sio ile ya akina mbogo ya ku floss bila mpango. Ni life ya mtu ako 30 something na career yake iko poa...Think a mid level manager at a mid size firm....
Saidieni tafadhali 1.Rent-50K-70K(middle class Nairobian) 2. House shopping-15k-20K 3.Mboch-8K 4. School fees for two kids and transport-50K 5.Entertainment(include day scholar yelo yelo)-30K 6.Fuel-20K 7.wazazi(we are africans)-15K 8. savings-15K 9.CSR(weddings,harambes etc)-10Kmiscellaneous-10K Assumptions-You have no loans and medical cover is provided by employer You need a monthly net of 223K approximately 310K+ gross I like the CSR But methinks landing fees should be an item by itself "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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