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Actually im not lashing out, she was just boring me with her lack of knowledge. Anyways, its all good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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vin wrote:I have always held my trust in gospel music lakini sio zile za ugali sosa na amenibamba.It is always prudent to be choosy on what enters your ears. give me the old time religion and it is good enough 4 me. za akina fanny cosby et al na akina festus kimunyu. songs that have an inspiration sio hizi za mikono juu!! nkt. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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@alma, psalms is nothing, u shld have said songs of solomon. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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quicksand wrote:I went back to page 1 of this thread, clicked on the video and watched from start to finish. It is interesting to say the least,...and the fluid imagery with the horns in the rihanna sequence, the eye of horus imagery had me puzzled .... Then the wheels started coming off when they showed michael jackson doing some dance moves, tearing his shirt off as his "sign" of his "breaking away" from the illuminati ..and then he turns into a black ominous looking panther as a sign of him being totally free and on the right path! Then along comes Eminem, saying he is Rain Man and sitting in a glass box on a detroit street in front of two high rise buildings - this the narrator attributes to symbolism of the "higher ups" of the illuminati as watching Eminem from above. Reeally???
Yes. There is some stuff there that piques the interest, certainly looks very odd in 20/20 highlighting, but there is also a lot of conjecture, stuff that can be interpreted in different ways depending on who you ask. The film maker is skidding on thin ice - there isn't enough subject matter on symbolism, lacking which the film jumps to Eminem (and other artistes) hearing voices in their heads urging them to do stuff. Psychiatrists will tell you that hearing voices is a good diagnosis of mental illness, hallucinatory drugs, MPD, Schizophrenia or mood disorders - this alone shoots the creditibility of nearly the second half of the film to tatters. I mean if a fellow you know started telling you the devil is talking to him will you book him with Dr Njenga or will you blame the illuminati?
Anyhow, just watch the entire film, draw your conclusions and let us continue the argument, OK? Hey great that atleast one person watched the entire clip, that was the main point of the post, to watch and give a critique not bore us with stories of pastors and cucus.Anyways Quicksand, so whats your take on the artists actually talking about some kind of entity that they are accountable to? Like JayZ talks about someone/thing making him mumble amazing numbers. And Bob Dylan talks about making a deal with the commander in chief of this world and the one beyond? By the way some time back there's an artist by the name Houston who after releasing his single which was doing well, one day just pulled out his eye!!! Just google it, people were like what?? There's something very sinister in the music industry
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Nabwire wrote:Actually im not lashing out, she was just boring me with her lack of knowledge. Anyways, its all good. This coming from someone who says the US has taught him tolerance? Nabwire the only reason i am calling you out is because when you gave the explanations of why you posted the link,all i could saw was "i am in the US! so my opinion is better than anyone else." I am glad you pointed out my lack of knowledge,yet i am yet to see you respond to alma's questions. Please be more like Jesus whom you claim to follow. You are a bully who does not want to hear any dissenting opinions and you and many others are using insults to quash debate. The request to watch the Coca cola ad was to everyone but let me help you out there,here is the link which i am sure you did not even watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZqtW0WoDc
“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”
― Anne Lamott
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote:quicksand wrote:I went back to page 1 of this thread, clicked on the video and watched from start to finish. It is interesting to say the least,...and the fluid imagery with the horns in the rihanna sequence, the eye of horus imagery had me puzzled .... Then the wheels started coming off when they showed michael jackson doing some dance moves, tearing his shirt off as his "sign" of his "breaking away" from the illuminati ..and then he turns into a black ominous looking panther as a sign of him being totally free and on the right path! Then along comes Eminem, saying he is Rain Man and sitting in a glass box on a detroit street in front of two high rise buildings - this the narrator attributes to symbolism of the "higher ups" of the illuminati as watching Eminem from above. Reeally???
Yes. There is some stuff there that piques the interest, certainly looks very odd in 20/20 highlighting, but there is also a lot of conjecture, stuff that can be interpreted in different ways depending on who you ask. The film maker is skidding on thin ice - there isn't enough subject matter on symbolism, lacking which the film jumps to Eminem (and other artistes) hearing voices in their heads urging them to do stuff. Psychiatrists will tell you that hearing voices is a good diagnosis of mental illness, hallucinatory drugs, MPD, Schizophrenia or mood disorders - this alone shoots the creditibility of nearly the second half of the film to tatters. I mean if a fellow you know started telling you the devil is talking to him will you book him with Dr Njenga or will you blame the illuminati?
Anyhow, just watch the entire film, draw your conclusions and let us continue the argument, OK? Hey great that atleast one person watched the entire clip, that was the main point of the post, to watch and give a critique not bore us with stories of pastors and cucus.Anyways Quicksand, so whats your take on the artists actually talking about some kind of entity that they are accountable to? Like JayZ talks about someone/thing making him mumble amazing numbers. And Bob Dylan talks about making a deal with the commander in chief of this world and the one beyond? By the way some time back there's an artist by the name Houston who after releasing his single which was doing well, one day just pulled out his eye!!! Just google it, people were like what?? There's something very sinister in the music industry @Nabwire ...Well, it is possible that some of these artists have joined a sort of cult - and they are forced to give up creative control of their work, use drugs and do other questionable acts; Usually cults have a belief system, and a totalitarian leader; - so the artists could be paying homage to the leader, or whatever religion/practices the leader represents; Could it be Satan? Yes. Evil? Possibly. It could also be something else - certainly none of that stuff looks christian in the traditional sense; Yet I don't think anybody here can claim to know 100% what it is, which is why labeling it this or that is contentious. People can believe what they want, it is their soul after all and they are entitled to take whatever measures to protect it, but they are not entitled to call those who don't subscribe as ignorant - this is how intolerance begins; In the recent past, there was this cult that gassed people because they had examined astrological movements and believed some alien ship was coming to collect them. Nothing to do with the devil, just a bunch of lost people. Going back to the symbols in the video,...the secret societies like Illuminati, these have existed for ages. Why they were formed is not clear, after all they are secret societies. See what Wikipedia says about Illuminati in popular culture: Quote:These authors do not rely on serious sources that provide historic information about the order, but rather on conspiracy theories which are in circulation about it. Thus the Illuminati are described as evil villains and mysterious, diabolic conspirators or they are portrayed as enlightened humans seeking to protect the world from evil. However this speculative information about the Illuminati is often mistaken as the truth The other symbols, like the eye, they too have a long contentious history. The origin of christianity and its rise to the fore of world religions is littered with revolts, propaganda, resistance and massacre. At some point christian worship was illegal, I believe @alma or someone else pointed this out. By patronage of Constantin, it was legalized. http://en.wikipedia.org/...tine_I_and_Christianity
Quote: Christian chroniclers tell that it appeared necessary to Constantine "to teach his subjects to give up their rites (...) and to accustom them to despise their temples and the images contained therein
This is how these symbols became evil in the Christian religion. If a person can subscribe to any religion, Hindu, Buddhism, why not the pre-Christianity ones? Have the symbols been subverted to mean something else? As outsiders do we know? Nobody is answering these questions So, we have hype, history (or ignorance of) and deep faith. 2 entrenched camps and possibly we'll never agree.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Nabwire wrote:The Nicki Minaj clip, they've added a bunch of irrelevant stuff. But if you check out her performance, she levitates, meaning she has been possessed and is now being controlled by another entity, the devil. Notice how all of them have alter egos? Beyonce's is Sasha Fierce, Nicki Minaj is Roman Zolanski, Gaga is Mother monster ( or some ish like that), JayZ is Hova ( as in Jehova). I dont know about you guys, but I turned off the radio and tv, especially tv. And NaS is GOD'S SONNow let me go bump to some CARRY THE CROSS or even beter, ILLMATICGOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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thats why i say those performances on super bowl or mtv awards or grammies are purely rituals covered up in performing arts . but who will know if majority donot knowabout the occult stuff. better inform yourself : http://www.vigilantcitizen.com.com
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