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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
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masukuma
#1651 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2020 9:24:47 PM
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wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!
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wukan
#1652 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:53:08 AM
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masukuma wrote:
wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!


"agiginyani" is also what Matiba had in mind but he ended up with the lumpen proletariat. Remember what Kamotho used to say even a dog would have been elected on Ford Asili ticket. Uhuru had also started on that road then he ended up with Mungiki lumpen. It took him a while to shed off that tag to become president.

Baba has abandoned the 'lord of poverty' tag, ruto is picking it up to his detriment. Kenyans will reward ruto with 'mtetezi wa wnayonge' opposition role similar to what they made baba.


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masukuma
#1653 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:41:52 AM
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wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!


"agiginyani" is also what Matiba had in mind but he ended up with the lumpen proletariat. Remember what Kamotho used to say even a dog would have been elected on Ford Asili ticket. Uhuru had also started on that road then he ended up with Mungiki lumpen. It took him a while to shed off that tag to become president.

Baba has abandoned the 'lord of poverty' tag, ruto is picking it up to his detriment. Kenyans will reward ruto with 'mtetezi wa wnayonge' opposition role similar to what they made baba.



I don't see the nexus... We are so used to seeing people from the perspective of 'Serikali Saidia'... 'the poor'... 'pesa ya maskini' I can see why people at a position of privilege would mistake those people with 'hustlers'... but they are not the same.

For example this guy really explains it well
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sqft
#1654 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:11:00 PM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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madollar
#1655 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 3:08:10 AM
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Extremely uncomfortable for ruto what are his options going forward and resigning is not one of them
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murchr
#1656 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:58:45 AM
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madollar wrote:
Extremely uncomfortable for ruto what are his options going forward and resigning is not one of them




He has all the cards. He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time. Everything is looking up for him.
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aemathenge
#1657 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 6:54:19 AM
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murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.
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masukuma
#1658 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 8:04:24 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.

it's too late for Uhuru... Ruto just needs to keep doing what he is doing - it's working!!
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aemathenge
#1659 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:48:50 AM
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masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.

it's too late for Uhuru... Ruto just needs to keep doing what he is doing - it's working!!


Granted.

I'm talking about the future.

William Ruto becomes President.

He has a Deputy President.

The new Deputy President, will he/she do what Deputy Ruto is doing to President Kenyatta II?
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wukan
#1660 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:29:32 AM
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blah blah blah....7 years later
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