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Kplc restructure plan out
youcan'tstopusnow
#301 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:41:26 PM
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mwanahisa, but the market isn't rational in the short term, is it? It is an impossibility to 'predict' prices of securities in the short term
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mwanahisa
#302 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:42:21 PM
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By the way having sold off a large chunk of my stake in KPLC pre-split, I would be more than happy if KPLC share price fell to 19. But I am realistic enough to know that's the stuff dreams are made of.
mwanahisa
#303 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:48:18 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwanahisa, but the market isn't rational in the short term, is it? It is an impossibility to 'predict' prices of securities in the short term


Agreed. There is always an element of risk in any "prediction". That's why we are taking bets on this given that the outcome is not fully certain. I however think "our" side has a greater chance of winning the bet.

If I lose, I will not begrudge YBC his "success" but I am sure I will make back my money by BUYING BIG if KPLC's price hits his prediction.
youcan'tstopusnow
#304 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:01:57 PM
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Excellently put, brother. I think most people took offence with yaser because he came out too strong. He was almost ordering guys to sell their shares. But it's looking like KCB all over again. yaser, can you tell us how you arrived at the figure of 17 as KPLC's value?
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Sober
#305 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:29:17 AM
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the price has stabilised. a cushion of 23.00
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VituVingiSana
#306 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 3:43:31 PM
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Faida issued a Research Report in Sep 2010... And the first table at the beginning of the document has an error/omission... I stopped right there! Bure kabisa!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Sober
#307 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:38:05 AM
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The 23 bob a share resisting level is working real.
Now the question should be; what happens tommorrow when we start buying the rights???
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Aguytrying
#308 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:12:34 AM
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Sober wrote:
The 23 bob a share resisting level is working real.
Now the question should be; what happens tommorrow when we start buying the rights???


I know!!! and what price will the rights be at???? this is becoming nerve racking. there is a price i can see tomorrow and just pull the trigger without thinking, due to my expectations.
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2012
#309 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:37:50 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I know!!! and what price will the rights be at???? this is becoming nerve racking. there is a price i can see tomorrow and just pull the trigger without thinking, due to my expectations.


Put a purchase @21.5/-

BBI will solve it
:)
Aguytrying
#310 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:27:19 PM
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2012 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
I know!!! and what price will the rights be at???? this is becoming nerve racking. there is a price i can see tomorrow and just pull the trigger without thinking, due to my expectations.


Put a purchase @21.5/-


Whats your rationale? at 21.5, u break even at 22.5. this is 3 bob more than 19.5. so its like buying the rights at 2.5bob, breaking at 22.5 as well. ( coz commission on rights is almost negligible, u break even at roughly 2.1% for selling only)
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guru267
#311 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:11:26 PM
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I'm loading up on these rights heavily kesho at 21.5 then I'm off trading until January so I'll take profits off one my performers and take an early holiday....

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2012
#312 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:22:34 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Whats your rationale? at 21.5, u break even at 22.5. this is 3 bob more than 19.5. so its like buying the rights at 2.5bob, breaking at 22.5 as well. ( coz commission on rights is almost negligible, u break even at roughly 2.1% for selling only)


These rights will be so hot and I can bet they'll be way oversubscribed and we all know institutions have a better chance of scooping over the LI's which is where I fall. So why waste my time?

BBI will solve it
:)
Aguytrying
#313 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:10:17 AM
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T minus 2.20 hrs.
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TUPAC
#314 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:47:40 AM
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hi guys. just a query-does one have to pay before applying for rights(those selling at the market) at the broker or one pays after allocation of rights?
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VituVingiSana
#315 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:40:55 AM
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Shares started trading at 23/- which implies a 3.50 premium but I expect a lower premium once GoK starts selling... That said, my broker says foreign investors are watching & waiting... They want to buy a single block for easier administration...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#316 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:02:29 AM
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I thought they should have started trading by now, cant see a thing
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#317 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:09:39 AM
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IMHO, the only rights that will be up for grabs are for the Retail LIs, and these are very negligible.
Knowing Mbaru for a while, i tell you this stock is one to watch!
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mwenza
#318 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:47:23 AM
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What is happening to the sale of KPLC rights? Any idea?
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Sober
#319 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:25:13 AM
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Order mismatch of course. No one knows what price to quote. We'll be in the know in an hours time.
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Wiztec
#320 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:35:19 AM
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Just called my broker tells me bids are for 1.6 and asking is is 5 and no trade at all so we might need to wait for a little while. i think the price might be affected when gok put their rights in the market ata very low price, that might determine the share price as well but looking at the supply today of kplc shares i don't think this share will go lower than it already went.
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