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Iganamagana
#301 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:09:27 PM
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kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.
kimanimsc
#302 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:29:46 PM
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Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"
maka
#303 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:31:16 PM
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kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...
possunt quia posse videntur
koscielny
#304 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 3:14:53 PM
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maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.
The Best is Yet to Come
Kratos
#305 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 4:43:26 PM
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koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Swenani
#306 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 4:47:58 PM
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Kratos wrote:
koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?


There was a slapperathon?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Kratos
#307 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:00:06 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?


There was a slapperathon?


I think so, there was this time Mo1 had gone to see his gacungwa who was the headmistress of a famous girls school then he forgot to carry his fimbo ya nyayo, when he asked Saitoti to bring it over to the madams house he refused. So the next time walipatana kuna mtu alikukula kofi.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
maka
#308 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:00:37 PM
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RAILA ODINGA’s TRIBUTE TO JACOB JUMA:

Over the past week, I have mourned the passing of a friend and a fellow fighter.
So close and so precious was Jacob Juma to me. But even as I have mourned, I believe that if Jacob were to speak from where he lies now, he would simply say, why do you mourn? I may be dead, but this is life.

In Jacob, our country has suffered a very grievous loss of a public servant. The media have defined Jacob by the fierce and bitter struggles which hung around him in recent times.
What they never say is that the struggles were inspired by Jacob’s belief in justice as the final arbiter in relations in society. He sought it whenever the lines were fuzzy.

But all those pursuits have been silenced and also awakened by Jacob’s sudden death. May be we shall, but chances are high we shall never know the truth if the past is precedent. Kenya has a long list of unexplained deaths.

I however know that as a businessman, Jacob had connections. He used his connections both for the growth of personal businesses and for public good.
From time to time, he tumbled on evidence of massive corruption. And whenever he did, he raised alarm. He spoke when his connections led him to evidence of massive theft at the NYS and when they led him to Eurobond theft.
It is not always that a man foresees with razor sharp accuracy, the consequences of the unfolding course of events in which he is an active participant. Jacob did.

On 1st March 2016, Jacob wrote: “I am ready to die for the sake of this nation if it will save us from corruption. I have lived long enough to worry about death.”
On the 25th of March 2016, he wrote another update:

“Freedom is expensive? Death is a must for everybody. I will not fear death and stay in comfort zone as a majority of Kenyans suffer anymore.” Jacob saw his death coming but decided to face it. Winston Churchill told us…:
“The only guide to a man is his conscience; the only shield to his memory is the rectitude and sincerity of his actions. It is very imprudent to walk through life without this shield, because we are so often mocked by the failure of our hopes and the upsetting of our calculations; but with this shield, however the fates may play, we march always in the ranks of honour.”
This is what kept Jacob going, fully aware of the dangers ahead.
Jacob acted with sincerity. He had noble and benevolent ideas. He loved his country. He cherished fairness. It is for these, I believe, that he had to die.
His murder must remind us of the words of Martin Luther King Jr. who said thus:
“We must be concerned not merely about who murdered…but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers.”
Yes, there is a system, a way of life and a philosophy in this country that believes in murders; that produces murderers in Kenya; that believes, wrongly, in extra-judicial killings as the way to sort out differences and eliminate competition; real or imagined.

That philosophy has claimed many lives from independence to date. In the aftermath of the Post-Election Violence, a chain of would be witnesses were systematically eliminated through extra-judicial killings:
1. Charles Ndungu Wagacha.
2. Maina Diambo.
3. Naftali Irungu alias “Marcus.”
4. Anthony Mwenje alias “Noriega.”
5. Njoroge Gichere.
6. Timothy Mburu Gatira.
7. Njuguna Gitau Njuguna.
8. George Njoroge Wagacha alias “Afco”.
9. Meshack Yebei.
10. John Kituyi.

This philosophy of extra-judicial killings had previously claimed Pio Gama Pinto, Thomas Joseph Mboya, J.M. Kariuki, Dr Crispin Odhiambo Mbai, Bishop Alexander Kipsang arap Muge, Sheikh Mohammed Idris, chairman of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, Sheikh Abubakar Shariff Ahmed, alias Makaburi, among others.
In virtually all these cases, no one has been held to account. Each of these extra-judicial killings has created lingering pain in families, friends and the citizens. Each of these killings has created a feeling of loneliness and helplessness that make some of us ask; has God abandoned Kenya?
We do not need more pain, more hatred, more violence, more lawlessness and more divisions in Kenya.

Kenya needs love, wisdom, compassion, empathy and tolerance towards one another. We need justice for those who feel they have been victims of injustice.
So as we take Jacob to his final home, I ask each of us to say a prayer for his family… yes they need my and your prayer.

But more importantly, let each of us say a prayer for our own country and for an end to the philosophy, the system, the way of life, which has produced and continues to produce the murderers and believers in extra-judicial killings.

Thank you very much.

12th May, 2016
possunt quia posse videntur
poundfoolish
#309 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:14:16 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?


There was a slapperathon?



Like this one

Alba
#310 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:01:20 PM
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Quote:
This philosophy of extra-judicial killings had previously claimed Pio Gama Pinto, Thomas Joseph Mboya, J.M. Kariuki, Dr Crispin Odhiambo Mbai, Bishop Alexander Kipsang arap Muge, Sheikh Mohammed Idris, chairman of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, Sheikh Abubakar Shariff Ahmed, alias Makaburi, among others


How did He forget to mention Robert Ouko. All the people involved in investigating the Ouko murder also died mysetriously , most notably police commissioner Philip Kilonzo, & Powerful PC Hezekiah Oyugi. Others like Troon barely escaped poisoning.

Sikuku the herds-boy and Rodi the watchman perished mysteriously. Others like Anguka had to flee for dear life while Selina Awuor fooled the death squads by faking her own death.

Another suspicious death was that of Ronald Ngala. The official statement from gava was that the driver of the car was stung by bees causing the car to overturn. No such thing happened.

Not to mention the numerous Kenyan dissidents who have died in custody like Tito Adungosi

All the people related to Hezekiah Ochuka also died mysteriously. Many Airforce servicemen were simply shot after they had surrendered. Evenm those who had nothing to do with the coup.

Na hii ni Kenya yetu
Pray Pray
maka
#311 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:20:54 PM
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Kiraithe being foolish on KTN...
possunt quia posse videntur
harrydre
#312 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:26:44 PM
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Did Bill board name the names?

To know who killed JJ, look at who benefits most.
i.am.back!!!!
Boris Boyka
#313 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:52:41 PM
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maka wrote:
Kiraithe being foolish on KTN...

Today Kiraithe has spoken stupidly.. Very foolish..nincompoop.. Defending the undefendable. In murder of someone the police normally go to the kin/family for statements and information. You can't defend how 7 days later Nome has visited family. You can't attend to a crime scene of such high profile say haven't got cartridges then 2 days say you found them. Plus soo many others. It's now more open that senior officials and the police knew.
Huyu kiraithe what is he using in the head? Samadi?
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
kayhara
#314 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:33:52 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?


There was a slapperathon?



Like this one


Seems A-Ruto-deh has a high affinity for/of slaps wasn't he slapped by General Kianga at KICC in 2007? Juma also boosted of how he gave Ruto a spinning slap
To Each His Own
maka
#315 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:40:59 PM
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kayhara wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
koscielny wrote:
maka wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
This man J1rongo at the JJ's mass. The investigation should start from when JJ slapped the DP...


Leta uhondo.


J1rongo while eulogizing JJ in the mass said "it is known DP was slapped by JJ and police should stop harassing politicians. Those who strangled Yembei are the ones who killed JJ"


That happened kitambo kiasi...


Indeed it did! Unfortunately, catching feelings has been trending for for a minute as well. Careful who you offend, some poachers of men will dedicate the rest of their lives hunting you down.


Is this also connected to the time Mo1 slapped Saitoti?


There was a slapperathon?



Like this one


Seems A-Ruto-deh has a high affinity for/of slaps wasn't he slapped by General Kianga at KICC in 2007? Juma also boosted of how he gave Ruto a spinning slap


He can be an irritant...
possunt quia posse videntur
safariant
#316 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:36:23 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Did Bill board name the names?

To know who killed JJ, look at who benefits most.


Sympathy vote or evidence of allegation's eliminated?
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
keraka
#317 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 8:41:35 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Did Bill board name the names?

To know who killed JJ, look at who benefits most.


Bullshit
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Ngalaka
#318 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 9:29:46 AM
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The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest in this thread.

A few pointers in my view.

JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding the whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations etc seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.

Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Risasi Sufuri
#319 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 9:50:31 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.

A few pointers in my view.

JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.

Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.


Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption.
alma1
#320 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 10:17:41 AM
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Risasi Sufuri wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.

A few pointers in my view.

JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.

Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.


Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption.


When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue.

In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen?

Keep your arguments honest.

The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends.

So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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