The missile that most likely brought down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine, killing nearly 200 Dutch citizens, “was fired indirectly from the Amsterdam Zuidas.”

Zuidas is the city's business district – and the top story in De Volkskrant, a leading Dutch newspaper, alleges that the missile was supplied by a Russian company registered there to take advantage of Dutch tax breaks.

The report has not been verified independently. But the coverage points to mounting public anger in the Netherlands over the crash in the separatist-controlled swath of eastern Ukraine. That anger grew over the weekend as pro-Russia rebels impeded access to the site for international investigation and recovery of bodies.
On Monday, Dutch investigators were finally able to examines bodies being held at a railway station in the town of Torez.

From thmd UN resolution, Russia has insisted that the wording of the resolution should read "plane was brought down" instead of "shot down"

Conspiracy theories galore!
All of a sudden Russia and Putin are the Angels and the West (who ever that is) is the devil!!

For most guys here, local politics inform our opinion on matters international. Time is overdue for debrief from the politician responsible.
In that connection I salute @ectacy and @harrydre for not auctioning their brains - especially on this matter!
As for @alphadotti, the indoctrination served at some darasa makes him see a conspiracy of the West in everything.
I guess even when the rains fail, the Americans are to blame!!!

@ gurus post here was most sober

look at this one, if someone has a difference in opinion or view of things then it must be conspiracy theory. "The West" doesn't exist, its a creation of the conspiracy theorists.
Being open minded is one of the best ways to live your life not swallowing what others tell you. Thinking is free my brother/sister....if it doesn't add up ask yourself WHY?

Local politics have no bearing on this thread, please point to anywhere it has been insinuated here before turning all judgmental and glorifying those who you think are aligned to your opinions. To engage in a debate bring your facts and other will counter them.

We also have the advanced preparation of the youtube video that purports to show a Russian general and Ukrainian separatists discussing having mistakenly downed a civilian airliner. As I pointed out earlier, this video is twice damned. It was ready in advance and by implicating the Russian military, it overlooked that the Russian military can tell the difference between a civilian airliner and a military airplane. The existence of the video itself implies that there was a plot to down the airliner and blame Russia.

I have seen reports that Ukrainian air control changed the route of MH-17 and directed it to fly over the conflict area. The transponders should also indicate whether
this is correct. If so, there clearly is at least circumstantial evidence that this was an intentional act on the part of Kiev, an act which would have required Washington’s blessing.