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#151 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 12:59:37 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
¿ wrote:

'Nothing is moving faster than everything.'

'Everything is moving in nothing.'




Movement (or the illusion thereof) is a direct function of space and time.

Without space/time there is no movement.

Period.



'Anything' is possible with illusions.
tycho
#152 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 1:14:57 PM
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'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.
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#153 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 1:45:15 PM
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tycho wrote:
'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.


Without an understanding of the 'absolute' nature of the illusions,defining the possibilities becomes an exercise in 'futility'.
tycho
#154 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 1:57:40 PM
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¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:
'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.


Without an understanding of the 'absolute' nature of the illusions,defining the possibilities becomes an exercise in 'futility'.


The absolute nature of illusion is nothingness.For example, defining the possibilities of light isn't an exercise in futility.
¿
#155 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:00:08 PM
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tycho wrote:
¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:
'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.


Without an understanding of the 'absolute' nature of the illusions,defining the possibilities becomes an exercise in 'futility'.


The absolute nature of illusion is nothingness.For example, defining the possibilities of light isn't an exercise in futility.


Using illusions to study other illusions in order to come to the conclusion that it's nothingness which is different from nothing. Much ado about nothing(ness).
Swenani
#156 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:08:43 PM
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How difficult is it for some people to be normal?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Wakanyugi
#157 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:13:50 PM
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tycho wrote:
'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.


Brother Tycho,

Does the above mean that you finally accept my argument that there no absolutes?

If so, welcome from the dark side



"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#158 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:16:20 PM
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tycho wrote:
¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:
'Nothing' may be a qiantum probability wave, or a field... in which case it can't be measured or ascribed to as an entity with specific qualities.

The illusion is in the holding that the entities we measure are absolute. So everything isn't possible with illusion, but everything is possible with nothingness.


Without an understanding of the 'absolute' nature of the illusions,defining the possibilities becomes an exercise in 'futility'.


The absolute nature of illusion is nothingness.For example, defining the possibilities of light isn't an exercise in futility.


Oops, it seems I spoke too soon. Never mind.

As you were.

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#159 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:21:24 PM
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¿ wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
¿ wrote:

'Nothing is moving faster than everything.'

'Everything is moving in nothing.'




Movement (or the illusion thereof) is a direct function of space and time.

Without space/time there is no movement.

Period.



'Anything' is possible with illusions.


Illusions are observer created. In fact my illusions and yours are very different, even of such things as space and time that it seems we agree on.

So, yes 'anything is possible with the observer.' I am yet to find any limit to our ability to create our own reality. We even created God, a very active one too if our pastors are to be believed.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
¿
#160 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 3:36:33 PM
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Joined: 6/4/2015
Posts: 604
Wakanyugi wrote:
¿ wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
¿ wrote:

'Nothing is moving faster than everything.'

'Everything is moving in nothing.'




Movement (or the illusion thereof) is a direct function of space and time.

Without space/time there is no movement.

Period.



'Anything' is possible with illusions.


Illusions are observer created. In fact my illusions and yours are very different, even of such things as space and time that it seems we agree on.

So, yes 'anything is possible with the observer.' I am yet to find any limit to our ability to create our own reality. We even created God, a very active one too if our pastors are to be believed.


It seems Descartes' evil demon is also very active.
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