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obiero
#151 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 10:02:16 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
With GOK issuing 11% tax free bonds worth 20B, expect migration from stocks to accelerate.

@sparkly wacha kutia watu baridi. some stocks have multiples that make the 11% look like loose change. think centum, kcb, panafrica

Which of those are ASSURED of 11% after tax return (capital gains and dividends) in the next one year?


KCB is assured 3.5% dividend yield plus atleast 10% organic share growth, making in all 13.5%minimum, but it could even go to 30% or more!!!
There is nothing like 'guaranteed' organic share growth.
11% is net of all taxes whereas Dividends are subject to 5% W/Tax. Add the CGT [and the confusion surrounding it] for a reduction in net value received.

Ninachosema ni kwamba kuna uwezekano wa hisa fulani kupita hio asilimia 11%.. Lakini serikali kweli imepatiana nafasi murwa, mufti kwa waekezaji..
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jerry
#152 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 11:22:29 PM
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Wawekezaji. Kiswahili si rahisi!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Boris Boyka
#153 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:22:50 AM
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jerry wrote:
Wawekezaji. Kiswahili si rahisi!

Sijajua kama unamukosoa Obiero au laa walakini tia bidii mwenzangu.
umoja- mwekezaji
wingi - waekezaji ,mfano katika sentensi.
Jukwaa la waekezaji lazinduliwa mjini Nairobi.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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jawgey
#154 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 5:36:51 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
jerry wrote:
Wawekezaji. Kiswahili si rahisi!

Sijajua kama unamukosoa Obiero au laa walakini tia bidii mwenzangu.
umoja- mwekezaji
wingi - waekezaji ,mfano katika sentensi.
Jukwaa la waekezaji lazinduliwa mjini Nairobi.


waWEkezaji
Seeing is believing
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sparkly
#155 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:59:42 PM
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Prices heading lower and lower...
Life is short. Live passionately.
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obiero
#156 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:20:47 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Prices heading lower and lower...

This has always happened in late December. Nothing new
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hisah
#157 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:05:35 AM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Prices heading lower and lower...

This has always happened in late December. Nothing new

indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.

Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Akenyan2014
#158 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:26:17 AM
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hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Prices heading lower and lower...

This has always happened in late December. Nothing new

indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.

Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity.


Meanwhile the Dow Jones is setting new record highs. How soon will NSE follow ?
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obiero
#159 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:26:26 AM
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hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Prices heading lower and lower...

This has always happened in late December. Nothing new

indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.
Indeed the turnover is huge. Must be linked to foreigner caution on CGT. As for the exchange bar, money never sleeps :) Bargains have called us out from holiday..
Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity.

Bargains have called us out from holiday. Money never sleeps.. As for the huge turnover, must be foreigner caution on CGT
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MaichBlack
#160 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:55:51 AM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,841
obiero wrote:
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Prices heading lower and lower...

This has always happened in late December. Nothing new

indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.
Indeed the turnover is huge. Must be linked to foreigner caution on CGT. As for the exchange bar, money never sleeps :) Bargains have called us out from holiday..
Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity.

Bargains have called us out from holiday. Money never sleeps.. As for the huge turnover, must be foreigner caution on CGT

And with technology you just make your orders by the beach. 30 seconds and you are back on holiday!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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