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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Alba wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana]some of those criticizing williamson are the same guys who leave their coats on their seats and disappear .
The guy was given a job to coach the national team, and with that just as in every other job he expects to get a pay at the end of the specified period. Its always interesting to hear from people who know jack squat about sports  Williamson does not deserve a salary of Ksh 2.5m per month. It seems the Kenya government is always eager to pay people 3 or 4 times what they would make elsewhere. And as others have pointed out, paying a coach a high salary will not raise the standards or Kenya football. That money is better spent at grassroots and youth level. Throwing all the money at senior level is like trying to teach a pupil fractions yet he does not know basic addition and subtraction. To be a good in sports, we have to invest in proper youth development in drilling our youth and instilling the appropriate technical skills Our priorities are backwards. No wonder we lag in football. [/quot You are very right. nothing to add
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:some of those criticizing williamson are the same guys who leave their coats on their seats and disappear .
The guy was given a job to coach the national team, and with that just as in every other job he expects to get a pay at the end of the specified period. Its always interesting to hear from people who know jack squat about sports Williamson does not deserve a salary of Ksh 2.5m per month. It seems the Kenya government is always eager to pay people 3 or 4 times what they would make elsewhere. His previous salary was Ksh 500,000 per month. How he deserves a 500% increase is a mystery. And as others have pointed out, paying a coach a high salary will not raise the standards or Kenya football. That money is better spent at grassroots and youth level. Throwing all the money at senior level is like trying to teach a pupil fractions yet he does not know basic addition and subtraction. To be a good in sports, we have to invest in proper youth development in drilling our youth and instilling the appropriate technical skills Our priorities are backwards. No wonder we lag in football. its fun reading from people who believe the world revolves around their (and their mzungu friends) ideals.  You could as well as argue ronney does not deserve his 300k pay,or @alba does not deserve his wazua account since he does not understand bears and bulls
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:its fun reading from people who believe the world revolves around their (and their mzungu friends) ideals. You could as well as argue ronney does not deserve his 300k pay,or @alba does not deserve his wazua account since he does not understand bears and bulls Most people understand that there is criteria for deciding a salary. It does not involve just blindly coming up with numbers as you are suggesting. It usually involves determining how much value a person brings and how much other companies or teams are offering him. In Rooney's case, he could probably earn $300,000 elsewhere and his marketing value is high since many people buy his jerseys thus putting money into the club's coffers. Now you tell us how Williamson deserves a 500% raise in salary also tell us why investing all this money at youth level instead of in youth development. That is unless your name has changed to sitaki-kufikiria
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Bobby Williams has been sent packing. Common sense has prevailed. A broke federation and a broke government should not be investing Ksh 2.5 million per month in one individual when you can get the same results for 20% of that amount.
Now put more money in the grassroots and unearth more Injeras, Oliechs , Olungas, Wanyamas and Kahatas. they are there
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Alba wrote:Bobby Williams has been sent packing. Common sense has prevailed. A broke federation and a broke government should not be investing Ksh 2.5 million per month in one individual when you can get the same results for 20% of that amount.
Now put more money in the grassroots and unearth more Injeras, Oliechs , Olungas, Wanyamas and Kahatas. they are there I would give u17 team to Ghost Mulee. He discovered Olunga and nurtured him through his academy. Ghost must be really proud of Olunga.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Ati Coach ni Stanley who? Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Fullykenyan wrote:Alba wrote:Bobby Williams has been sent packing. Common sense has prevailed. A broke federation and a broke government should not be investing Ksh 2.5 million per month in one individual when you can get the same results for 20% of that amount.
Now put more money in the grassroots and unearth more Injeras, Oliechs , Olungas, Wanyamas and Kahatas. they are there I would give u17 team to Ghost Mulee. He discovered Olunga and nurtured him through his academy. Ghost must be really proud of Olunga. Ghost is strictly a businessman. He made a lot of money on the Olunga sale. And the last time he was stars coach, he coerced players to sign with his management company or else he would drop them from the team. In 2004, Kenya played in the cup of nations. Ghost fielded Jojo Waweru even though the latter was injured. It is said he did so to get Waweru TV exposure in front of Euro scouts because Ghost stood to gain financially if Waweru was recruited by a European team. I do not begrudge Ghost from wanting to make money. But it disqualifies him from being a national team coach. Too much Conflict of interest.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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kaka2za wrote:Ati Coach ni Stanley who? As much as I wanted Williamson out, I too am wondering why they chose an inexperienced coach who has not accomplished anything. Looks like Mwendwa's first mis-step
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Ghost has just become rich if he was'nt already. IF Djugarden payed Ksh 16 million for Olunga. As his agent/manager, I would imagine het gets most of it. Y'all are in the wrong business folks
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Alba wrote:Ghost has just become rich if he was'nt already. IF Djugarden payed Ksh 16 million for Olunga. As his agent/manager, I would imagine het gets most of it. Y'all are in the wrong business folks The maximum he gets could be 30 percent. However, don´t forget he invested alot also in Olunga. To be an agent is also not easy. It is full of mafias and i think in kenya, ghost is the God father. i once asked a senior FKF represantative if i can join the club and he told me he has to first consult Ghost, that is when i knew, Ghost must be pulling the strings there.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Fullykenyan wrote:Alba wrote:Ghost has just become rich if he was'nt already. IF Djugarden payed Ksh 16 million for Olunga. As his agent/manager, I would imagine het gets most of it. Y'all are in the wrong business folks The maximum he gets could be 30 percent. However, don´t forget he invested alot also in Olunga. To be an agent is also not easy. It is full of mafias and i think in kenya, ghost is the God father. i once asked a senior FKF represantative if i can join the club and he told me he has to first consult Ghost, that is when i knew, Ghost must be pulling the strings there. That's just around £110,000 hefty by our standards but peanuts by Europe standards considering that ASEC Mimosas received £150,000 for Kolo Touré in 2002. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Harambee stars have been beaten by Guinea Bissau thus ending their hopes.
Some perplexing decisions were made. Firstly I understand that the chartered flight to Guinea Bissau had 18 officials and only 12 players. Plenty of joy riders in that flight.
So if you think Nick Mwendwa was offering a new start, you might be disappointed.
Second, Stan Okumbi is not the ideal person to be stars coach given that his record of success is non-existent. And his decision to put inexperienced lower division players in the starting line-up is a head scratcher.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Tomorrow we play against Guinea Bissau in the second leg. we have no chance in this tournament African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Cut your loses... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:Harambee stars have been beaten by Guinea Bissau thus ending their hopes.
Some perplexing decisions were made. Firstly I understand that the chartered flight to Guinea Bissau had 18 officials and only 12 players. Plenty of joy riders in that flight.
So if you think Nick Mwendwa was offering a new start, you might be disappointed.
Second, Stan Okumbi is not the ideal person to be stars coach given that his record of success is non-existent. And his decision to put inexperienced lower division players in the starting line-up is a head scratcher. I think we can perform much better if FKF can have a dedicated and non elected intelligence department that would guide any elected officials. Such a department would even determine the kind of squad required and design players on a massive scale. Coaches too would be designed ... The elected officials would then find enough space for their politics while the game flourishes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,911
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Poor results!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Angelica _ann wrote:Poor results!!! Very useless! They need to be disbanded. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Stars couldbe banned by CAF for the fracas. Meanwhile someone please identify the chap being interviewed at 1:15. Testing wazua knowledge.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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lakini hapo hapakuwa bao!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Alba wrote:Stars couldbe banned by CAF for the fracas. Meanwhile someone please identify the chap being interviewed at 1:15. Testing wazua knowledge. Alba, maybe you one day shall tell me why we even have football in Kenya. Still waiting for 1 hooligan to be arrested. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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