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too many road accidents
sparkly
#301 Posted : Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:38:20 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Yes people are dying coz of driver MADNESS. You overtake carelessly expecting to "kupenya", or incoming vehicle to stop or go off the road asikugonge.






This is what typically happens on our highways these days.

People overtaking recklessly, on the wrong side of the road, off the road.
Life is short. Live passionately.
kaka2za
#302 Posted : Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:55:17 PM
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A class one pupil can tell why there are so many accidents on our roads yet we persist with the same bad driving habits.

God have mercy on us!
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newfarer
#303 Posted : Sunday, December 31, 2017 1:43:02 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
A class one pupil can tell why there are so many accidents on our roads yet we persist will the same bad driving habits.

God have mercy on us!

Corruption.vehicle don't go for inspection yet they have inspection stickers .no enforcement of speed limits...no speed governor..I don't think a bus riding at 80 kph would cause much damage.its genocide on our roads watched by a failed government
punda amecheka
murchr
#304 Posted : Sunday, December 31, 2017 6:20:06 PM
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newfarer wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
A class one pupil can tell why there are so many accidents on our roads yet we persist will the same bad driving habits.

God have mercy on us!

Corruption.vehicle don't go for inspection yet they have inspection stickers .no enforcement of speed limits...no speed governor..I don't think a bus riding at 80 kph would cause much damage.its genocide on our roads watched by a failed government



Are we as drivers not to blame? A bus riding at 80KPH uphill colliding with one descending downhill (probably on free) at 80?

This is a simulation of a crash at 80KPH




I still maintain, that road needs to be redesigned. All these measures ati no driving at night bla bla is nonsense.
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Euge
#305 Posted : Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:14:07 PM
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We drivers cause the accidents: 1. Carelessness 2. Fatigue 3. Drivers driving too fast on unfamiliar road 4. Drunken driving.

In addition, it is very rare to find road signs especially on roads constructed before the Chinese arrived.

NTSA will not help end the road accidents. The only thing they do efficiently is to collect revenue for GOK (I have said this here before). The current statistics on road accidents are annoying, painful and unacceptable. Something must be done. As drivers, we must have a deep sense of responsibility and love for other road users and do everything we can not to cause an accident. NTSA bure kabisaaa.


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Lord, thank you!
harrydre
#306 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 12:28:44 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
34 dead in one accident near salgaa.Pray



Jubilee Sad Sad Sad


You cant blame drivers ojinga on jubilee. Kenyans don't value their f@$#ing life.
i.am.back!!!!
quicksand
#307 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 10:24:10 AM
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Anyone who has driven on the Nairobi-Nakuru highway can tell you of the arrogance of bus drivers. They are at the controls of high speed, powerful turbodiesels (those Scania engines are something else). When a bus changes lanes to complete an overtake, it will complete the overtake, other drivers be damned, especially of smaller vehcles. The guy flashes lights at you. It is for them to scram for their lives by going off to the shoulder. Tough luck if there is no runoff. Unbelievable. The bullying by bus drivers is constant.
This driver probably assumed it was a small car oncoming and it would make way, plus it was dark. There is no cure for human stupidity but you can clamp it down severely. First, the power on those buses needs to be cut off, limit speed to 60. Matatus too. Inspection every three months. Tampering leads to heavy fines.
Its a start.
Liv
#308 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 10:45:10 AM
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Statistics show that 75% of fatal road accidents happen at night. Why? Drivers are mostly fatigued, some have been working during the day, others are drunk...Most people who drink and drive do it at night, many drivers don't see well at night and yet they don't know it..no one tests the eye sight of drivers in kenya before being authorised to drive. It is at night that most unroadworthy vehicles are brought out to the road as there are fewer policemen and defects can't be seen easily. Such vehicles have no reflectors and when they stall or stop on the roads other drivers are unlikely to see them. All that coupled with the arrogance of most drivers in Kenya and corruption results in high loss of life as we have today.
Liv
#309 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 10:59:22 AM
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What can you do as an individual? Feeling helpless and blaming NTSA won't help you. You should...
1. Avoid night travel as much a possible. If you must use public transport, travel during the day. If you drive make it your policy to sleep in whichever town you are in at 7pm and travel the following morning.

2. Avoid driving while fatigued. If you feel fatigued stop somewhere and doze off for 30 min before getting to the road again. Also don't drink and drive

3. Obey the traffic rules as much as possible...important :.. always have everyone in your car put the safety belt on without exception.

4. Go for refresher defensive driving training regularly.... if possible once every 2-3 years.

5. Advise your relatives and friends to do the same.

Accidents are not an act of God. They are caused by human beings and they result in people dying before their time.
Ngalaka
#310 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 11:46:14 AM
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Liv wrote:
What can you do as an individual? Feeling helpless and blaming NTSA won't help you. You should...
1. Avoid night travel as much a possible. If you must use public transport, travel during the day. If you drive make it your policy to sleep in whichever town you are in at 7pm and travel the following morning.

2. Avoid driving while fatigued. If you feel fatigued stop somewhere and doze off for 30 min before getting to the road again. Also don't drink and drive

3. Obey the traffic rules as much as possible...important :.. always have everyone in your car put the safety belt on without exception.

4. Go for refresher defensive driving training regularly.... if possible once every 2-3 years.

5. Advise your relatives and friends to do the same.

Accidents are not an act of God. They are caused by human beings and they result in people dying before their time.

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Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Ngalaka
#311 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 11:57:05 AM
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Yesterday evening about 9pm I was driving on outer ring road. Between Donholm and Tajmal section, I encountered three vehicles, two of them Matatus driving in the wrong direction with lights on full blast.

Driving towards oncoming traffic on a one-way-traffic-road!!

Not only was this annoying but also scaring as I was not familiar with the road and needed to keep watch on where the exits and turn offs are to avoid missing my way.

The last such offending vehicle was a 33 seater matatu that I encountered near Tajmal, coming from the direction of JKIA on a road that’s exclusive for vehicles cruising towards JKIA! I figured it would have to travel for more than a Kilometre in order to switch to its rightful lane.
This Devil will care attitude is our undoing.

Aside from the need to have such behaviour reined in, we have to appreciate that it’s also a function of how we are cultured.

Question is, are we doing anything to debrief the next generation of this warped culture!!
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
hardwood
#312 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 12:59:14 PM
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All these accidents are caused by driver STUPIDITY/LACK OF COMMON SENSE ...overtaking at corners, overtaking kwa yellow line, driving on the wrong lane, overlapping, speeding, free wheeling, phombe etc etc. One only needs to drive from nairobi to nakuru to see the kind of IDIOTS on the roads...from personal cars, to matatus, buses, trucks, boda bodas. If kenyan drivers used common sense, accidents would be a thing of the past.
Rahatupu
#313 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 1:29:01 PM
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hardwood wrote:
All these accidents are caused by driver STUPIDITY/LACK OF COMMON SENSE ...overtaking at corners, overtaking kwa yellow line, driving on the wrong lane, overlapping, speeding, free wheeling, phombe etc etc. One only needs to drive from nairobi to nakuru to see the kind of IDIOTS on the roads...from personal cars, to matatus, buses, trucks, boda bodas. If kenyan drivers used common sense, accidents would be a thing of the past.


All the above happens and no consequences from authorities. Only death or injury of driver and helpless victims. My take enforcement is and has been wanting, blame it on corruption.
Fullykenyan
#314 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 2:19:26 PM
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Most kenyans are not cultured and our IQ is generally low. Give someone with low IQ a big machine and expect nothing but deaths and injuries. I think it is high time we phase out matatus completely and let each town/city get a reputable bus company to do transport for them. Am sure Chinese and Europeans would be willing to invest in this. Such a company you can easily hold them accountable. By the way now in Europe most buses are now E-buses,something that the matatu industry cannot afford
Flo-ology
#315 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 5:09:09 PM
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quicksand wrote:
Anyone who has driven on the Nairobi-Nakuru highway can tell you of the arrogance of bus drivers. They are at the controls of high speed, powerful turbodiesels (those Scania engines are something else). When a bus changes lanes to complete an overtake, it will complete the overtake, other drivers be damned, especially of smaller vehcles. The guy flashes lights at you. It is for them to scram for their lives by going off to the shoulder. Tough luck if there is no runoff. Unbelievable. The bullying by bus drivers is constant.
This driver probably assumed it was a small car oncoming and it would make way, plus it was dark. There is no cure for human stupidity but you can clamp it down severely. First, the power on those buses needs to be cut off, limit speed to 60. Matatus too. Inspection every three months. Tampering leads to heavy fines.
Its a start.


I support you on this speed capping. KEBS should talk to the manufacturers of those buses and limit the speed at 80kph from the factory. For the current buses and matatu the fine for tampering with speed governor should be permanent ban of the bus/matatu
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hardwood
#316 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2018 7:59:07 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
34 dead in one accident near salgaa.Pray



Jubilee Sad Sad Sad


What? You drive like a MAD WOMAN and crash head on into trucks and then you blame Ohuru? Unataka Ohuru afanye nini? You want Ohuru to be on every mad driver's passenger seat...to prevent them from commiting suicide? Let the mad drivers kill themselves coz the roads will become safer....fewer idiots on the road.
Shak
#317 Posted : Tuesday, January 02, 2018 4:42:54 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
34 dead in one accident near salgaa.Pray



Jubilee Sad Sad Sad


What? You drive like a MAD WOMAN and crash head on into trucks and then you blame Ohuru? Unataka Ohuru afanye nini? You want Ohuru to be on every mad driver's passenger seat...to prevent them from commiting suicide? Let the mad drivers kill themselves coz the roads will become safer....fewer idiots on the road.

The problem is that the mad drivers are a risk even to those driving safely on the roads. We need serious enforcement of traffic rules to get these mad men and women off out roads
Njunge
#318 Posted : Tuesday, January 02, 2018 8:49:10 AM
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Banning night travel for buses is not a solution. Actually, i think this will cause more problem. I have said it here before that Nakuru Town acts as a bottle-neck to traffic traveling either way and this is witnessed during the day and at nights as well. What happens when you squeeze all that traffic to between 6Am and 7Pm since people will still travel? Is there a likelihood that by doing so we might even increase the chances of more accidents? This is not a well thought out decision and i still insist de-congesting Nakuru-Mau Summit section will prove to be a better way of reducing accidents along the Eldoret -Nakuru highway in the meantime as we find ways of addressing other issues such as corruption, by-passes, road indiscipline and such.
kaka2za
#319 Posted : Tuesday, January 02, 2018 8:51:08 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
34 dead in one accident near salgaa.Pray



Jubilee Sad Sad Sad


What? You drive like a MAD WOMAN and crash head on into trucks and then you blame Ohuru? Unataka Ohuru afanye nini? You want Ohuru to be on every mad driver's passenger seat...to prevent them from commiting suicide? Let the mad drivers kill themselves coz the roads will become safer....fewer idiots on the road.


No,the drivers are not committing suicide they are mostly killing others.One driver dead,37 Pax gone! No one is safe unless you don't travel by road at all.
Uhuru,RAO or any other politician will have no use for you when rescuers remove your broken body from the wreckage.You will be just another statistic.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Njunge
#320 Posted : Tuesday, January 02, 2018 12:28:23 PM
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Some institutions in this country are run by total idiots. Thousands are now stranded in major towns and the few available PSVs are charging an arm and a leg. NKT!!!!!
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