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obiero
#15671 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 5:30:12 PM
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Dear OBIERO, your today trade summary details. KQ BUY Qty 125,000 @ 3.85 KES.

Alooo

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15672 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 6:11:01 PM
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obiero wrote:
mufasa wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The sad thing is people are losing big time money here. That is not funny. These are real people losing real money. I hate that!!!


With only 5% listed for public trading. I doubt the share price will change much. This one will bleed for a long time.

A seasoned investor has spoken. It helps to remember that there are KQ shareholders who bought at KES 111 per share

GoK to give up some space to allow entry of the strategic investment. KQLC are immovable since their shareholding was a debt conversion

KQ ABP 4.26
DtheK
#15673 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 6:56:04 PM
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Location: Kenya
All the best airline bankrupciesUS airline bankrupcies
You are an informed private investor it is your right to do with your capital as you please.
The thing that disturbs me is the colossal amounts treasury has used to prop this thing bearing in mind other more pressing needs e.g education, health etc.
obiero
#15674 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 7:55:19 PM
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DtheK wrote:
All the best airline bankrupciesUS airline bankrupcies
You are an informed private investor it is your right to do with your capital as you please.
The thing that disturbs me is the colossal amounts treasury has used to prop this thing bearing in mind other more pressing needs e.g education, health etc.

Asante sana. Thing is, GoK is unlikely to let KQ go belly up. Successive regimes have already shown their hand. Even KQLC did not happen by chance, banks were twisted. Then PIIP as proposed by MJ, if it had seen the light of day, KQ would be competing with ET head to head. For now, we await the KES 65B capital injection. If it doesn't come by Q1 2026, another lengthy KQ share suspension could occur

KQ ABP 4.26
stocksmaster
#15675 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 9:45:09 PM
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obiero wrote:
stocksmaster wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The sad thing is people are losing big time money here. That is not funny. These are real people losing real money. I hate that!!!


Pareto Optimality at play.

Happy hunting

Looks like Latin or Greek. Let me Google that. Every day is a God given new opportunity to learn something

Happy hunting


Simply means sometimes some have to cry in the toilet as they loose money in the market for others to laugh all the way to the bank.

Happy Hunting
x handle: @stocksmaster79
obiero
#15676 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2025 10:07:27 PM
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Location: nairobi
stocksmaster wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocksmaster wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The sad thing is people are losing big time money here. That is not funny. These are real people losing real money. I hate that!!!


Pareto Optimality at play.

Happy hunting

Looks like Latin or Greek. Let me Google that. Every day is a God given new opportunity to learn something

Happy hunting


Simply means sometimes some have to cry in the toilet as they loose money in the market for others to laugh all the way to the bank.

Happy Hunting

True true. Relates closely to the greater fool theory

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15677 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2025 9:03:59 AM
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Close to 4 million shares traded in last two days. The question is, who is buying? What do the buyers see that the sellers cannot? Or what do the sellers see that the buyers cannot?

KQ ABP 4.26
watesh
#15678 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2025 9:55:40 PM
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Location: Kenya
obiero wrote:
Close to 4 million shares traded in last two days. The question is, who is buying? What do the buyers see that the sellers cannot? Or what do the sellers see that the buyers cannot?


I am a buyer now. The bad news is in and investors are spooked. However, the bad news is caused by sth temporary (grounding due to delays in overhaul) out of KQ's control. Here are the things that attract me:
1. Dreamliners will eventually come back and revenue will go back to normal.
2. Gatwick addition - London is their most profitable route and this just adds more margin
3. Getting rid of the E190s - Due to low belly capacity, they limit how much luggage passengers can carry, so they hinder optimization when it comes to connecting passengers passing through Kenya using larger aircraft.
4. Boosting capacity - 6 B737 -8 are on track to be leased. KQ needs a fleet of over 50 to start feeling the effects of economies of scale not only on flying passengers but also the maintenance side (with scale they can start more in-house maintenance of engines).
5. Govt sugar daddy - The govt has guaranteed most of the loans and they just paid 19.3bn in loans. KQ can default on some of the loans and let govt pay, then focus on scaling up.
6. Jambo Jet has accumulated tax losses of 3.94bn that can be used
7. Demand is available
8. Probability for a hub in Ghana
9. Despite the loss of 20% capacity, Net cash from operating activities was almost flat. It needs more colour, but cash is king.
10. Fleet rationalization - KQ will focus on B737-8 Max and B737-800NG for the narrow bodies, B777 and B787 for the wide bodies

My play is to scale up my buys as the price slowly collapses to the low 3s or below. The negative equity is MASSIVE, the balance sheet is ugly, the sentiment has been destroyed but there is money to be made. Any positive news from this company leads the share price to surge.

I would love to see more widebody aircraft and maybe even an extra route in the US (ATL, DFW, ORD or LAX). This would be very bullish

I am not an aviation expert but the simple formula that I see is more planes = more money and that is what KQ management is trying to do. I might be wrong or overly optimistic. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


obiero
#15679 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2025 11:09:58 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
watesh wrote:
obiero wrote:
Close to 4 million shares traded in last two days. The question is, who is buying? What do the buyers see that the sellers cannot? Or what do the sellers see that the buyers cannot?


I am a buyer now. The bad news is in and investors are spooked. However, the bad news is caused by sth temporary (grounding due to delays in overhaul) out of KQ's control. Here are the things that attract me:
1. Dreamliners will eventually come back and revenue will go back to normal.
2. Gatwick addition - London is their most profitable route and this just adds more margin
3. Getting rid of the E190s - Due to low belly capacity, they limit how much luggage passengers can carry, so they hinder optimization when it comes to connecting passengers passing through Kenya using larger aircraft.
4. Boosting capacity - 6 B737 -8 are on track to be leased. KQ needs a fleet of over 50 to start feeling the effects of economies of scale not only on flying passengers but also the maintenance side (with scale they can start more in-house maintenance of engines).
5. Govt sugar daddy - The govt has guaranteed most of the loans and they just paid 19.3bn in loans. KQ can default on some of the loans and let govt pay, then focus on scaling up.
6. Jambo Jet has accumulated tax losses of 3.94bn that can be used
7. Demand is available
8. Probability for a hub in Ghana
9. Despite the loss of 20% capacity, Net cash from operating activities was almost flat. It needs more colour, but cash is king.
10. Fleet rationalization - KQ will focus on B737-8 Max and B737-800NG for the narrow bodies, B777 and B787 for the wide bodies

My play is to scale up my buys as the price slowly collapses to the low 3s or below. The negative equity is MASSIVE, the balance sheet is ugly, the sentiment has been destroyed but there is money to be made. Any positive news from this company leads the share price to surge.

I would love to see more widebody aircraft and maybe even an extra route in the US (ATL, DFW, ORD or LAX). This would be very bullish

I am not an aviation expert but the simple formula that I see is more planes = more money and that is what KQ management is trying to do. I might be wrong or overly optimistic. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



Welcome aboard. Price shows floor support at KES 3.85. Too many positive happenings in the horizon. From next Monday they have just announced a triangle hop for NBO-CDG-AMS easing connectivity. Even ET doesn't offer that. Fair value remains KES 8.52, but realization timeline is mid 2026 - early 2027

KQ ABP 4.26
McGill
#15680 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2025 4:12:03 PM
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Joined: 8/1/2019
Posts: 106
watesh wrote:
obiero wrote:
Close to 4 million shares traded in last two days. The question is, who is buying? What do the buyers see that the sellers cannot? Or what do the sellers see that the buyers cannot?


I am a buyer now. The bad news is in and investors are spooked. However, the bad news is caused by sth temporary (grounding due to delays in overhaul) out of KQ's control. Here are the things that attract me:
1. Dreamliners will eventually come back and revenue will go back to normal.
2. Gatwick addition - London is their most profitable route and this just adds more margin
3. Getting rid of the E190s - Due to low belly capacity, they limit how much luggage passengers can carry, so they hinder optimization when it comes to connecting passengers passing through Kenya using larger aircraft.
4. Boosting capacity - 6 B737 -8 are on track to be leased. KQ needs a fleet of over 50 to start feeling the effects of economies of scale not only on flying passengers but also the maintenance side (with scale they can start more in-house maintenance of engines).
5. Govt sugar daddy - The govt has guaranteed most of the loans and they just paid 19.3bn in loans. KQ can default on some of the loans and let govt pay, then focus on scaling up.
6. Jambo Jet has accumulated tax losses of 3.94bn that can be used
7. Demand is available
8. Probability for a hub in Ghana
9. Despite the loss of 20% capacity, Net cash from operating activities was almost flat. It needs more colour, but cash is king.
10. Fleet rationalization - KQ will focus on B737-8 Max and B737-800NG for the narrow bodies, B777 and B787 for the wide bodies

My play is to scale up my buys as the price slowly collapses to the low 3s or below. The negative equity is MASSIVE, the balance sheet is ugly, the sentiment has been destroyed but there is money to be made. Any positive news from this company leads the share price to surge.

I would love to see more widebody aircraft and maybe even an extra route in the US (ATL, DFW, ORD or LAX). This would be very bullish

I am not an aviation expert but the simple formula that I see is more planes = more money and that is what KQ management is trying to do. I might be wrong or overly optimistic. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly




Last time I checked management still had zero shareholding in this thing. Kama they don't see anything who am I to be optimistic
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