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Declaration of War in Wazua
tycho
#141 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:45:42 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Nabwire wrote:
Its such a shame when grown men gang up on someone simply because he is not acting in a way that they want him to. You cannot dictate to people what they can or cannot be, I wonder what gives you the authority. Everyone is on this site for different reasons, maybe Tycho's reason is this is where he can have philosophical conversations and expand his thinking, I wonder how someone else can then come and tell him that that is not allowed! Unless you own this site, you have no authority telling someone else what they should discuss, especially when it does not harm anyone. I personally rarely read Tycho's posting because at the moment I am not interested in Philosophy, so I scroll past them, and I suggest that you all do the same. If that doesn't work, you can always block him, but don't try to muzzle him as if your thoughts and opinions are more important than his. Tycho keep calm and post on!


Thank you @Nabwire. Now I know that there's at least one Wazuan who isn't a 'mass man'. That calms me down.
Muheani
#142 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:57:32 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/20/2009
Posts: 1,402
Poor me. Am lost.



AlphDoti
#143 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:57:43 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
quicksand wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
And there you go again dICK, still dicking around.

My prose teacher once quoted the paragraphs here under. They remind of you dicking around.

Most adjectives and adverbs do not add information; they just take up space and DULL the message.

Example: "I am very interested in quickly scheduling an in-person interview".

Remove the adjectives and you get the same message, but sharper: "I am interested in scheduling an interview."
Pardom me, dear Tycho, but if it wouldn't be too much of an inconvenience, could I trouble you to do me (us) the favor of applying your obvious considerable facility with "common sense" to Just Get To The Damn Point?

Incidentally, how do you charm a girl?


Succinct.
Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
This is what I have been saying for a while.
No pulling punches ....

@Tycho should know that communication is:
"Two-way process of reaching mutual understanding, in which participants not only exchange information, news, ideas and feelings but also create and share meaning. In general, communication is a means of connecting people".

I'm not saying we should limit tycho's imagination or broad thinking, we're saying is that know his audience is first step in communication. Maybe his name is derived from "techy". It reminds me of those technical people you ask them something and they give a lot technical stuff, not relevant to question or situation, in the process communicating "nothing" at all.

So @tycho can flex his mind in the appropriate thread. But "normal" threads got "normal" discussion, he should drop the adjectives.

Otherwise, even dealing with your wife will be a problem and might end up a lonely man.


AlphDoti, let me put your post in a form I can understand.

Tycho doesn't know what communication is because he doesn't allow conversation to take place. He prevents conversation by using 'technical' adjectives that don't make sense. Therefore he should be restricted to a thread of his own.

If this is what you are saying, then you are lying. And you're only exposing your wickedness and hypocrisy.

Apologies @tycho for the tone or the way my suggestion came out. What I was saying is that it becomes so confusing at times to follow your threads.

We all know you'e a smart man. What I suggested was to just ask you to communincate more clearly and more consistenly.

You're really very good in philisopy, and you're also good in ordinary issues. We would like to read both of your style; the complex symbolism and the straightforward talk, what we call "normal". Now, given we are saying why don't you exchange these phylosophy with like minded people on a special thread. And as freely as anyone lese, contribute "normally" on other threads.
quicksand
#144 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:06:16 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
quicksand wrote:
tycho wrote:
quicksand wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
And there you go again dICK, still dicking around.

My prose teacher once quoted the paragraphs here under. They remind of you dicking around.

Most adjectives and adverbs do not add information; they just take up space and DULL the message.

Example: "I am very interested in quickly scheduling an in-person interview".

Remove the adjectives and you get the same message, but sharper: "I am interested in scheduling an interview."

Pardom me, dear Tycho, but if it wouldn't be too much of an inconvenience, could I trouble you to do me (us) the favor of applying your obvious considerable facility with "common sense" to Just Get To The Damn Point?


Incidentally, how do you charm a girl?


Succinct.
Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
This is what I have been saying for a while.
No pulling punches ....


Yes. No pulling punches. Do you think speech or writing can ever get to the point? Kindly show me an expression that's to the point, because saying 'succint' about a paragraph in a long text is telling.

Otherwise how is it that even despite the many exchanges between us, you've not been so 'succint' about adjectives and adverbs, and have only waited for @mathenge's expression? Or have you been expressing yourself in many words?

And isn't 'succint' an adjective?

Yes it is an adjective. And it is 'succinct'.
I happen to agree with what @mathenge was saying, particularly the phrasing. Your response is to want to split hairs about the word 'succinct'?
Some of us are trying to tell you something here - read the posts on the thread. But alas instead of taking it head on, you circle back and serve up the same old nebulous arguments.
Sometimes harsh words, stripped of diplomacy, do the trick, like a slap in the face...knock you right off the soapbox you are standing on.


No. I'm not splitting hairs about a word. I am doing two things; first, by identifying 'adjectives' and 'adverbs' I am trying to evaluate the advice you and your friends are offering. Is that wrong? Secondly, I am trying to see if you are following the advice you are giving.

Apparently you are not following your advice; like in 'nebulous arguments'. So how can you claim to be correcting me?

I have checked on what it means to be on a 'soap box' and I wonder why you're pulling punches now. Is it wrong or immoral to stand on a 'soap box'?

You want to use violence because reason is too heavy for your head.


Really? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...Go on, look up the meaning of 'splitting hairs'.
We have had this type of argument before,...now that we are having it again means neither of us has changed position. Just as well. Someone asked why I should be bothered by how you write (and if I can't, just fly right over your posts). I shouldn't be. I will try that for size. Peace out.
sherrif
#145 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 2:24:40 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/27/2012
Posts: 169
Good communication taking place here.

One only needs to engage their thinking faculty deeper and broader to grasp the message in a philosophers post since we cannot stop them from speaking 'their language'.
Contrary to a line up there,Philosophers from a recent uk study, make the most romantic of lovers because they engage the mind,the source of all intimate thoughts.

And so just like some,I skip posts that don't warrant my attention.


tycho
#146 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:34:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
@quicksand:

'Splitting hairs': To argue about the inconsequential part of an issue.

If I'm splitting hairs when talking of adjectives and adverbs, then the important issue here is something yet to be defined. Otherwise what's wrong with my expression if it's not the grammar? Syntax?

Why don't you get to the point? Or rather, why should you expect me to get to the point, but exempt yourselves from the same?

Or is it that you have been to the point but I have fallen short of seeing it? What if this is also what I'm 'accusing' you of?

I can read any post and find meaning because I create meaning. I consult and investigate, think, and if necessary respond. And I never complain or recommend that people should express themselves the way I want. Why should someone shun this responsibility and demand that I create meaning for them?

I will read your posts because it's not worth it to deprive myself such an experience and I will respond if I deem it fit. As for you, you have every right to remain silent, or speak. But whenever you speak, just remember you are the one creating meaning.
tycho
#147 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:29:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
quicksand wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
And there you go again dICK, still dicking around.

My prose teacher once quoted the paragraphs here under. They remind of you dicking around.

Most adjectives and adverbs do not add information; they just take up space and DULL the message.

Example: "I am very interested in quickly scheduling an in-person interview".

Remove the adjectives and you get the same message, but sharper: "I am interested in scheduling an interview."
Pardom me, dear Tycho, but if it wouldn't be too much of an inconvenience, could I trouble you to do me (us) the favor of applying your obvious considerable facility with "common sense" to Just Get To The Damn Point?

Incidentally, how do you charm a girl?


Succinct.
Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
This is what I have been saying for a while.
No pulling punches ....

@Tycho should know that communication is:
"Two-way process of reaching mutual understanding, in which participants not only exchange information, news, ideas and feelings but also create and share meaning. In general, communication is a means of connecting people".

I'm not saying we should limit tycho's imagination or broad thinking, we're saying is that know his audience is first step in communication. Maybe his name is derived from "techy". It reminds me of those technical people you ask them something and they give a lot technical stuff, not relevant to question or situation, in the process communicating "nothing" at all.

So @tycho can flex his mind in the appropriate thread. But "normal" threads got "normal" discussion, he should drop the adjectives.

Otherwise, even dealing with your wife will be a problem and might end up a lonely man.


AlphDoti, let me put your post in a form I can understand.

Tycho doesn't know what communication is because he doesn't allow conversation to take place. He prevents conversation by using 'technical' adjectives that don't make sense. Therefore he should be restricted to a thread of his own.

If this is what you are saying, then you are lying. And you're only exposing your wickedness and hypocrisy.

Apologies @tycho for the tone or the way my suggestion came out. What I was saying is that it becomes so confusing at times to follow your threads.

We all know you'e a smart man. What I suggested was to just ask you to communincate more clearly and more consistenly.

You're really very good in philisopy, and you're also good in ordinary issues. We would like to read both of your style; the complex symbolism and the straightforward talk, what we call "normal". Now, given we are saying why don't you exchange these phylosophy with like minded people on a special thread. And as freely as anyone lese, contribute "normally" on other threads.


You've got it wrong sir, if you think my posts are about showing off.

And your confusion and inability to understand some of my posts can't be sufficient reason for @tycho to start making performances. Having twenty more people with the same sentiments still doesn't warrant such a change. If anything I wonder if you've asked yourself whether I find difficulty and confusion in some of your posts also.

How is it reasonable to expect me to express myself according to your standards? I'm sorry, but I find your request unreasonable and unfair. I will post in the most sincere way I can and on any thread.






Chief Guest
#148 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:47:35 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/2/2013
Posts: 387
@Tycho,

I do not think anyone should change merely at the expense of a majority (or a minority even!) nor conform to the ideas, mannerisms of their class of thought.

We are all free to perceive things, choose what we feel is 'ok' or 'right' as per the 'self'.

Nobody should condone u for anything!

As someone offered above, we should personally choose which posts to read or respond to.
Illmatic
jguru
#149 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 10:13:44 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/25/2007
Posts: 1,574
Nabwire wrote:
Its such a shame when grown men gang up on someone simply because he is not acting in a way that they want him to. You cannot dictate to people what they can or cannot be, I wonder what gives you the authority. Everyone is on this site for different reasons, maybe Tycho's reason is this is where he can have philosophical conversations and expand his thinking, I wonder how someone else can then come and tell him that that is not allowed! Unless you own this site, you have no authority telling someone else what they should discuss, especially when it does not harm anyone. I personally rarely read Tycho's posting because at the moment I am not interested in Philosophy, so I scroll past them, and I suggest that you all do the same. If that doesn't work, you can always block him, but don't try to muzzle him as if your thoughts and opinions are more important than his. Tycho keep calm and post on!


Does this functionality exist in Wazua? Can I block a member's posts?

d'oh!
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
Nabwire
#150 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 10:31:12 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/22/2011
Posts: 1,325
Click on the user's name, click hide user's posts, they are as good as imaginary after that! I have personally blocked a user, no longer read anything from them!
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