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kiterunner
#141 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 5:21:22 PM
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Location: Nairobi
mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
please come here

http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/

..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide.

We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him ....

Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men.

Anyone ever been here??

What was your experience with us?

Karibu.


Please answer the following qustions for me

1. what does the postor drive
2. does the pastor have body guards
3. where do the offerings go to?
4. how old is your church
5. what is the doctrine of your church

thank you
our goals are best achieved indirectly
kiterunner
#142 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 5:24:28 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
mawinder wrote:
mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
please come here

http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/

..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide.

We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him ....

Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men.

Anyone ever been here??

What was your experience with us?

Karibu.

They should come to where I worship.So far no complain.http://www.purposecentre.org/



wow it has come to marketing now? wololo,

things are so different form when i grew up

church is where you went to pray with family

nowadays its more like where is trending for me to be seen

when inviting me to your church did you consider where i live? or you have branches in every neck of the hood


my verdict #kanisanibiashara 80% of the time


our goals are best achieved indirectly
kiterunner
#143 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 5:29:38 PM
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Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
i have to confess I am a very agnostic christian, still working out how it works. For the enlightened one please help me out

1. How do these guys come up with these titles, Apostle, prophet, prophetess, Dr (without PhD), ..........
2. That tongue speaking, how come it is similar from what i hear from different regions, ie kenyan tongue speaking is different from nigerian? the holy spirit can tell the borders?
3.where do offerings go in these kiosk (one shop floor) churches, do the congregants know the projects run by them......
our goals are best achieved indirectly
Sansa
#144 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 6:21:37 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 344
kiterunner wrote:
i have to confess I am a very agnostic christian, still working out how it works.



You and I are in the same boat and while I figure it all out, my motto has been "Do no evil!". Along with other questions I have, I find that it makes no sense to me that one can spend numerous hours in church on Sunday plus more hours in the middle of the week, fast every so often, pray five times a day and still turn around and harm another human and expect that they will go to heaven/jannah. In fact the two most hateful religions happen to be Islam and Christianity (also evidenced by the language being used right here on wazua).
Magigi
#145 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 6:28:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/31/2008
Posts: 7,081
Location: Kenya
kiterunner wrote:
mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
please come here

http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/

..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide.

We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him ....

Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men.

Anyone ever been here??

What was your experience with us?

Karibu.


Please answer the following qustions for me

1. what does the postor drive
2. does the pastor have body guards
3. where do the offerings go to?
4. how old is your church
5. what is the doctrine of your church

thank you

Does the pastor dress weirdly...like the devil...
AlphDoti
#146 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 6:28:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
So we have seen that:
1. Jesus (peace be upon him) was sent to specific people, the Israelits. Matt 2:6
2. Jesus (peace be upon him) commanded his disciples not to go to any other people other including Samarians, only to Israelites (Matt 10:5)
3. Jesus (peace be upon him) told the non-Isralelite woman that his message was not for the dogs (non-Jews), but to the sheep (Matt 15:21)
4. Jesus (peace be upon him) told them is they are pursecuted, the should run to another city, and they will not have finished the Israelites before his 2nd coming (Matt 10:23)
Question: Has Jesus (pbuh) come back? SO why are they preaching to non-Jews?
5. Jesus (peace be upon him) said he was only praying to Father for Israelites (Waisraeli), not the whole world (John 17:9)

So from these stories I have gaviven also comes the wrong belief about faith. That as the woman had faith that Jesus would cure her daughter, so also other Gentiles can have faith that Jesus was crucified for them and has thus secured a place in Paradise by shedding his blood. Don’t be fooled Shame on you

Jesus clarified this position when he said: Not every one who says to me Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven. Only he that does the Will of my Father Who is in heaven. Matt 7.21. (This means only he who keeps the Law, only he who follows God’s Commandments will enter the kingdom of heaven.)

Jesus clarifies the position even further: Many will say unto me in that day: Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? Have we not cast out demons in your name? And have we not done many wonderful works in your name? And then I will profess to them and say: I never knew you: depart from me you evil doers. Matt 7.22
AlphDoti
#147 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 6:41:08 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Matt 7:21-23

Now, I would like to ask them: Who are those who prophesy in the name of Jesus? Who are those who remove demons in the name of Jesus? Who are those who do many wonderful works in the name of Jesus?

Why Jesus will say to christians" get away from me I never knew you, you evil doers, YOU workers of lawlessness."

Jews, Muslims, Athiests, Buddhists, Hinus, and Agnostics on the day of judgement will not say Lord, Lord, Lord to Jesus, only CHRISTIANS will say that. So why would Jesus say "...I never knew you get away from me." According to these verses if you do things in the name of Jesus, you are wrong. Please Explain.

Jesus son of Mary is prophet of God, when he comes back he will be very mad and angry at chritians for following satan's cross and pagan worship instead of following his true message of worshiping God alone without association any one with Him in worship.

Wake up my friends before it is too late!
AlphDoti
#148 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 6:51:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
please come here

http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/

..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide.

We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him ....

Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men.

Anyone ever been here??

What was your experience with us?

Karibu.

They should come to where I worship.So far no complain.http://www.purposecentre.org/

Any church with the piksha of the 'apostle' and his wife as the home page aka main theme, hapo iko sida. How many times did you see Bishop Dingi's piksha pasted hapo Holy Family Basillica?

Weka link to prove there is a problem with Julian and Amanda Kyula.In fact they dont touch the finances as Kyula in his own right is too wealthy from his business.

For any Church/xtian faith, Christ should be central not the pastor. The pastor is just a messenger.

@Mawinder did you mean the guy in #9 here top 10 ROGUE pastors
marko
#149 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 7:01:05 PM
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Joined: 1/7/2007
Posts: 838
If you look at the christian history you will find that these pastors for money have been a part of Christianity from the get-go. Many pharisees converted to Christianity during the persecutions of the Jews of the Jesus era. This is because the Romans after sometime came to grudgingly respect Christians due to the strength of the first believers and spared them while persecuting the Jews. So these pharisees who initially were all about money came into the Christian church and the rest is history.
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marko
#150 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 7:07:26 PM
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To another matter:

1. If the story was about fake pastors, why does it seem like he was attacking the whole christian faith? Is there a story behind the story?

2. If the guys in that church were not actors but innocents, why did the station not protect their identities? And if they had to did they ask for permission to show their faces?
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