i think you should have been there when the discussion was starting maybe it would have had some more sense.
you see you donot have to shout ontop of the world that you like the devil you can just simply play ignorance to all his ways and trust me thats good enough .
but to answer this silly question





even God during the old times used signs and symbols what we are against is symbols used to evil worship . and from your argument so far you really dont mind seeing devil worshiping symbols in your entertainment . Heck even better you donot know what they are ?????

QW now symbols are ok? If they are not devil worship? Please without shouting the word SCAM as you do, can you please give us evidence of any symbol being used by the devil.

That is a simple question, don't meander around it. Show us one symbol and give us the evidence.

Again I need someone to answer the questions asked earlier.

Who amongst you has been to a devil worshipper's meeting? Please do not say we all know...It's like a virgin saying how sex is sweet. How would he/she know?

I am not young. I remember a time when evangelicals would go around saying that Catholics worship idols...Some still do.

There was a time when some "preachers" would not go to the funeral with someone with HIV as it was "the devil's" disease....Some still do.

There was a time when having a child without that husband was considered a terminal illness that would lead you straight to the devil. Until the same pastors starting having ndogo ndogos....Some still believe so.

There was even a time when voting Yes to the new constitution was preached in churches that it would lead to mass abortions on Kenyatta avenue. And the devil would open a doorway somewhere on jamia mosque.....Some still believe so..

Most of these people have no control on their own lives so would rather blame the devil, devil worshippers and any new devil that comes along, for their failures.

So Jzee and Beyonce now sell many songs because they use symbols of the devil....Wewe uliona shetani wapi akupe manual yake ya symbols?

A lot of people have gotten away in life calling people what they wish. They happen to be very noisy, after all part of the sadaka is used to buy airtime on citizen.

It doesn't mean they are right. Worse, most of the time they are absolutely wrong and confused.

When you ask them to answer questions, they quote a verse in the Bible. Then they move on to calling you an aethiest and next a devil worshipper.

If you have said a sign belongs to devil worshipping, please, this is as good a place as any to prove it.

Using a word like "ignorant" when asked for evidence is as ignorant as it gets.

I went back to page 1 of this thread, clicked on the video and watched from start to finish. It is interesting to say the least,...and the fluid imagery with the horns in the rihanna sequence, the eye of horus imagery had me puzzled .... Then the wheels started coming off when they showed michael jackson doing some dance moves, tearing his shirt off as his "sign" of his "breaking away" from the illuminati ..and then he turns into a black ominous looking panther as a sign of him being totally free and on the right path! Then along comes Eminem, saying he is Rain Man and sitting in a glass box on a detroit street in front of two high rise buildings - this the narrator attributes to symbolism of the "higher ups" of the illuminati as watching Eminem from above. Reeally???

Yes. There is some stuff there that piques the interest, certainly looks very odd in 20/20 highlighting, but there is also a lot of conjecture, stuff that can be interpreted in different ways depending on who you ask. The film maker is skidding on thin ice - there isn't enough subject matter on symbolism, lacking which the film jumps to Eminem (and other artistes) hearing voices in their heads urging them to do stuff. Psychiatrists will tell you that hearing voices is a good diagnosis of mental illness, hallucinatory drugs, MPD, Schizophrenia or mood disorders - this alone shoots the creditibility of nearly the second half of the film to tatters.
I mean if a fellow you know started telling you the devil is talking to him will you book him with Dr Njenga or will you blame the illuminati?

Anyhow, just watch the entire film, draw your conclusions and let us continue the argument, OK?

the truth is...no devil worshiper reveals his or her true identity to those who are not initiated. I once asked an asian bussinessman about a queer looking ring he wore, and the guy was very truthfull....that it brings him wealth and good luck. And when I asked him to give it to me, he said that I need one specially made for me....and I have to meet the wazees first.... A K**K patient was furious at me that I asked about his bangle....told me to mind my bussiness.....and there was this delirious patient in renal failure....confessed that he had 2 majinis which always accompanied him to the renal unit. The work of the JINIs was to bring him wealth, in return they have to suck blood........sometimes from other patients....

i totally agree . even just at the local level there are stuff mungiki fellows who have taken the oath cannot tell to the uninitiated . you have to be one of them .
even the much talked about illuminati . you have to be initiated into their sect to know somethings and even that doesnot guarantee that you'll know everything as you have to move through he ranks ( degrees) so that some stuff is revealed to you .