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CaptainGG
#141 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:05:13 PM
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stevecomptech wrote:
To all Wazuans please follow this simple procedure when buying land.
http://kenyanlawyer.blog...ying-land-in-kenya.html



Thanks for sharing the info. The Syokimau issue is however beyond this coz many followed the correct procedures and acquired relevant approvals to purchase and develop their property. There is a possibility that this land originally belonged to KAA but was reallocated through corruption by the government of the day.

The current government should therefore investigate whatever happened, take responsibility and compensate those who acquired the land legally. Too much impunity and disregard for the rule of law.

This time round, we are united as suffering Kenyans, come election time, we all retract to our tribal cocoons. We are our own enemies.

No one is protesting but wait until Sonko is taken to court for breaking the law and all of us jam the courtroom.
sirpoloo
#142 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:04:34 PM
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@captainGG......No one is protesting but wait until Sonko is taken to court for breaking the law and all of us jam the courtroom.

can u elaborate more pls??
maligumu
#143 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:15:30 AM
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Fellow Wazuans I have Been following this thread with a lot of concern but I'm sad to note that some of us can't tell the difference between a genuine title deed and an allotment letter . Could some one enlighten us on the features of a genuine land title deed . To the best of my understanding it must have all the records on any transfers on the particular piece of land in question . The Government is never corrupt only individuals within the system are corrupt .
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lynx
#144 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:47:02 AM
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GGK wrote:
Swanky2010 wrote:
GGK wrote:
jamplu wrote:

There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.

What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.


There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??


Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently




hi guyz, who has this report?


I have it


Kindly email the Arthi River report to me at wpsafrica@gmail.com
thanks
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GGK
#145 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:54:49 AM
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maligumu wrote:
Fellow Wazuans I have Been following this thread with a lot of concern but I'm sad to note that some of us can't tell the difference between a genuine title deed and an allotment letter . Could some one enlighten us on the features of a genuine land title deed . To the best of my understanding it must have all the records on any transfers on the particular piece of land in question . The Government is never corrupt only individuals within the system are corrupt .


Generally, the validity of an allotment letter is based on the legality of the title deed held by the entity issuing the letter.
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jamplu
#146 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:22:41 AM
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lynx wrote:
GGK wrote:
Swanky2010 wrote:
GGK wrote:
jamplu wrote:

There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.

What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.


There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??


Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently




hi guyz, who has this report?


I have it


Kindly email the Arthi River report to me at wpsafrica@gmail.com
thanks



what is in this report that people don't want to share it kama iko share it on jamplu@yahoo.com
klan
#147 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:48:02 AM
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anyone with infor. on wakigwe holdings on thika road- around Ndarugu
mukiha
#148 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:55:30 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
(1)How does the law work, assuming the owners were innocent victims of fraud. My question is that they must have had some form of official govt document to even get approval to construct etc.

The fact that (2)KAA watched them construct those houses to me is proof enough that their rights to the land parcels were genuine. Any progressive judge who understands the spirit of the law should make KAA/gava to compensate them fully, for the.

Na hao wezi should be arrested, employees of KAA and the people they worked in cahoots with.

My advise to anybody whose proerty has been lost through gava's incompetence, just get yourself a good lawyer, sue and be patient.


(1). Consider a different case: some one steals your car; goes to Kirinyaga rd and produces a fake logbook; sells the car to me (after colluding with a fellow at KRA to cheat me that the car is his). Two years later you find me driving it proudly around your estate. What would you do? Would you listen to my long stories of how I bought it, or would you simply want your car back?

(2). KAA is a body corporate. It is not a person with eyes to see. Still, KAA issued numerous caveats warning people against interfering with that parcel of land. What more could they have done? When push came to shove, KAA acted...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Jamani
#149 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:13:47 AM
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mukiha wrote:


(1). Consider a different case: some one steals your car; goes to Kirinyaga rd and produces a fake logbook; sells the car to me (after colluding with a fellow at KRA to cheat me that the car is his). Two years later you find me driving it proudly around your estate. What would you do? Would you listen to my long stories of how I bought it, or would you simply want your car back?


Reminds me of one R. Tuju on KICC when Kanu was claiming it... he said if someone stole your radio and got a permit for it and you know without a doubt that the radio is yours what do you do? his answer was you take it back by all means and let him go to court......
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#150 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:38:31 AM
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KAA says it did not carry out the demolitions. They were sanctioned by a cabinet resolution which is why the cabinet was united in defending the move.
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