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VituVingiSana		#14341 Posted : Monday, March 02, 2020 10:11:50 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		nairobby wrote: passiveinvestor wrote: Ebenyo wrote: Going by KQ latest audited numbers I wonder how Gok will pay shareholders kshs 8 per share. KQ assets-kshs 136,634,000,000 kq debts-kshs 139,127,000,000 kq shareholders funds-kshs (2,493,000,000) This means every KQ shareholder is holding a worthless share worth kshs -0.4 Even the current market price of kshs 2 is indeed a premium. So how does Gok buy a company worth negative 0.4 per share for kshs 8 per share? or which metrics will be used? Gok will have to fork out kshs 45 billion to buy kq shareholders at kshs 8 per share.This will be a huge generous offe Thanks for asking a basic question that no-one has been able to answer. With the new KES5Bn injection approved on Friday, 28th Feb and a weekend of silence, so no chance to trade, Shareholders will be wiped out on Monday. Especially if it convertible debt with a strike price. KQ is now a govt. parastatal. If the banks are getting bought out at 8.25 there's a chance @obiero and his mates will also be bought out at the same price since all shares rank pari passu. Wouldn't it be complicated to buy out different shareholders with the same class of shares at different price points? This is a gamble of a lifetime however, we'll be here to monitor some people's blood pressure GoK could pay the banks off separately/later under the agreements they may have in place. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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maka		#14342 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2020 7:41:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... possunt quia posse videntur
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ArrestedDev		#14343 Posted : Thursday, March 05, 2020 9:38:55 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies?
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obiero		#14344 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 6:28:49 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around KQ ABP 4.26
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ArrestedDev		#14345 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 12:16:53 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year.
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obiero		#14346 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 4:52:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard KQ ABP 4.26
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maka		#14347 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:41:05 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard possunt quia posse videntur
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obiero		#14348 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:47:27 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace KQ ABP 4.26
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Ericsson		#14349 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 3:04:10 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI		obiero wrote: A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero		#14350 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 8:53:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money 5B remember KQ ABP 4.26
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