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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? 
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? He will say only a fool doesn't change his mind, fake difence!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. Kanyagia Hapo DJ Weka Solotape.
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. no difference with the first term. just that now the mistakes of the first term are catching up. the very same mistakes you were singing about and praising here. be honest - the only reason you are now seeing the uselessness is because your man is no longer part of the system.
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Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? He will say only a fool doesn't change his mind, fake difence!!! Nyinyi watu mnadhani kutolewa kwa jukwaa kaa mwizi ni mchezo.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place.
The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. no difference with the first term. just that now the mistakes of the first term are catching up. the very same mistakes you were singing about and praising here. be honest - the only reason you are now seeing the uselessness is because your man is no longer part of the system. When was he ever useful? Gatundu residents didn't even believe he could make a good MP in 1997! The question that time was what exactly had he done for himself and the country at that time? That question is still valid 22 years later. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Queen wrote:Nyinyi watu mnadhani kutolewa kwa jukwaa kaa mwizi ni mchezo. You should have been around during the Nyayo Error. Kibaki was removed VP to Health Minister. I will not talk about Dr. Josephat Karanja. He was "removed by a mere inspector of motor vehicles." Professor George Saitoti had to say "There Comes A Time". Even the Professor of Kenian Politics himself suffered a slap from a Rift Valley Commissioner of Police while he was VP. Doctor Ruto is not seeing anything new.
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